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chase33 Posts: 362 |
posted 03-07-2011 08:25 PM
  
Hey all, I recently acquired a Tiffany center bowl. Based on the marking, it dates from 1956-1965 (has the L. mark). There is also a model number - 23347. Is there anyway to get additional information based on this model number? I'm kinda hoping that there might be a service such as the one provided by Samuel Hough for Gorham pieces. Any ideas? Robert PS I'll try to get some pictures up later IP: Logged |
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Richard Kurtzman Moderator Posts: 768 |
posted 03-07-2011 08:55 PM
Hi Robert, The number dates the design to about 1947. There is a listing of pattern numbers and approximate dates in the Carpenter book on Tiffany. The 925-1000.com website has all this information as well. IP: Logged |
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chase33 Posts: 362 |
posted 03-07-2011 09:40 PM
Thanks Richard, I had looked at that site and that is where I had gotten my date of 1956-1965. I didn't see that farther down were the pattern numbers as well. I thought I had gotten to the end of the page when I saw the google ads after the history on Tiffany. That will teach me to keep scrolling. So it looks like unless I can get someone at Tiffany to check their archives (yeah I know, good luck on that - lol), I am kinda out of stuck. Thanks again Robert IP: Logged |
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dragonflywink Posts: 993 |
posted 03-07-2011 09:56 PM
If I recall correctly, Tiffany charges considerably more than most are willing to pay for an archive search..... ~Cheryl IP: Logged |
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jersey Posts: 1203 |
posted 03-07-2011 10:01 PM
Hi Robert ! FYI. There used to be a great gentleman at Tiffany's but alas he is no longer there. He was a fountain of sharing information & very willing to deal with the likes Jersey IP: Logged |
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chase33 Posts: 362 |
posted 03-08-2011 07:14 PM
As promised, here are the pictures. If anyone recognizes this or has additional information, I would appreciate. Side View: Side View of Handle: Handle Detail: Top View: Mark: Thanks Robert IP: Logged |
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denimrs Posts: 102 |
posted 03-08-2011 08:36 PM
quote: Cheryl, You are right. I think it is a couple of thousand dollars and takes several months. I wanted to ask a very simple question and that was the information I got when I called to enquire. So, I joined this Forum and asked here where I found out a lot about my funny little fork. Elizabeth IP: Logged |
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Ulysses Dietz Moderator Posts: 1265 |
posted 03-10-2011 04:45 PM
From a curator's point of view, this is one of the few really significant pieces of modernist silver that Tiffany produced in the 1940s--and the pattern date to 1947 puts it right on the edge of modern design in the immediate post-war years. Modern really never did (does) very well at Tiffany's, and thus such significant pieces as yours are rare. They did a lot of great designs in the 1930s--which were all financial flops (hence desirable for curators). As everyone has said, getting any information about a specific piece is all but impossible, since their archives are about corporate branding and not about public service. Oscar Riedner is a good candidate for the design of your piece--but I wouldn't venture to guarantee that he is the designer. IP: Logged |
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chase33 Posts: 362 |
posted 03-11-2011 06:49 PM
Thanks for your curator's viewpoint,Ulysses. Since Tiffany silver isn't what I usually collect (and therefore haven;t really researched) its interesting to hear what you have to say. I have always thought of Tiffany as a trend-setter but my views are based on what I have just seen and heard in the media. I guess I have never really thought about how the company may have been making beautiful deigns that were financial flops. I just checked out a copy of Mr. Carpenter's book and it does seem to lack information regarding the post Art Deco period. Anyway, I love the bowl and plan on keeping it a long time. Maybe by then I can pass it on to someone else who will love it. Robert IP: Logged |
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jersey Posts: 1203 |
posted 03-11-2011 10:27 PM
Robert, I'll get first dibs! Love it! L is for Lusk director at the time! 1958-1965, I believe . Jersey IP: Logged |
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