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ssicilia

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iconnumber posted 03-26-2009 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ssicilia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hello -

Years ago, my parents collected Royal Danish flatware, a place setting at a time, as their finances allowed.

I was looking at the pieces, and have realized that otherwise identical pieces have different markings on the back. Here are pics of a pair of dinner forks and a pair of dinner spoons. In each of these pairs, you can see that one has the helmet mark, and the other says U.S.A. instead. I assume that this is because they're from different years? Does anyone know which is the older of the two? Is there any difference in pieces based on the markings?

I appreciate any information you can supply on this!

Thank you
- Sheila


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Hose_dk

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iconnumber posted 03-27-2009 02:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hose_dk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I soppose that i should know anything. But it is unknown to me. Could you post a picture of the hole item so I ca see the rest.

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Dale

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iconnumber posted 03-27-2009 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The marking system used by International Silver remains one of the great mysteries of US silver. There are times when it appears to be almost random. The knight is the mark of IS' Simpson Hall & Miller. The USA is one I have never seen before. International Sterling appears sometimes for no apparent reason.

There is, as far as I know, no published research on the subject of IS and its marks. All that is known is that sets of IS can come with different marks on various pieces. And that IS has at times released items using marks that had been dormant for decades. And that IS never kept any record of how they marked items.

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Dale

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iconnumber posted 03-27-2009 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, forgot to ask my usual question: how did your parents buy this? From a local jeweler, a department store, by mail order, from the PX? And in what period did they buy it?

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ssicilia

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iconnumber posted 03-27-2009 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ssicilia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi -

Thanks for the information!

I don't know where my parents bought the pieces. I'm pretty sure they bought them before I was born. My parents are long gone, so I can't ask them. As for the period - must be pre-1958 (when I was born).

Thanks again!
- Sheila

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taloncrest

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iconnumber posted 03-27-2009 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for taloncrest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would tend to assume that the ones with the knight's head would be older, or from older dies. I have no real evidence why this would be so.

You got me curious and I went to my chest of odds and ends to look at the few pieces of Royal Danish I possess; a casserole spoon, two salad forks, a cocktail fork and a youth knife. The casserole spoon and one salad fork are marked USA, while the second salad fork and the cocktail fork are marked with the knight's head. I'd never noticed the difference before.

Oh, and for Hose_dk

An American interpretation of Danish modern silver of the period.

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Hose_dk

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iconnumber posted 03-28-2009 05:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hose_dk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote


Ahhh an American copy of Georg Jensen "Konge" I presume
Picture from internet - I am sorry this is after my period of interest - to new.

and "borrowed" design too - uha uha

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