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ztiques Posts: 3 |
posted 10-19-2009 12:04 PM
  
[26-1914] I collect silver and have never and any Arthur Stone silver with this mark, I find it very interesting that this set came from a family member that work at Stone yet some pieces don't have the correct mark. I recently purchased a Arthur Stone Sterling Silver flatware set for eight in the "Pointed End" pattern, it is from a descendent of a family member who worked at Stone in Gardner, Ma. about 50% of the set has the "Stone" mark the other half is mark sterling within an oval, all of the pieces are of the same quality and identical except for the mark. Thanks for any and all help! IP: Logged |
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agphile Posts: 798 |
posted 10-20-2009 04:31 PM
I guess it is a bit dangerous to try and comment from England without knowing too much about Stone's marks. Assuming that the entire set is from the Stone workshop rather than assembled from two different sources - and I see why you think the former is the case - there are nonetheless two different actual makers' initials on the items illustrated. Is one initial consistently on the Stone marked items and the other on the remainder? If so the items in the set may possibly have been made at two different dates and in one case it was thought inappropriate to add the Stone mark to items that were being kept by a staff member (to discourage selling on of items provided at or near cost). This is just speculation, and I don't know whether the Stone workshop ever used a sterling mark like the one on the pieces that lack the actual Stone mark. [This message has been edited by agphile (edited 10-20-2009).] IP: Logged |
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Ulysses Dietz Moderator Posts: 1265 |
posted 10-21-2009 09:00 PM
It is very hard to see just from pictures, but it seems that there are subtle, yet real, differences between the two sets--including the amount of wear on the engraved monogram (unless that's just a fluke of the photography). I think half of the set was made after Stone closed, to flesh out a smaller set. Whoever did it did a good job and was an expert silver maker. IP: Logged |
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Kimo Posts: 1627 |
posted 10-22-2009 11:52 AM
I think Ulysses is right. There are subtle but noticeable differences in the shapes of the two in the photos. Finding sets of silver that have been assembled at different times is common. Also, finding sets where a second maker's flatware that closely matches the original one is also not at all uncommon. In this case the match is close and so I would imagine you will enjoy using it with no one at your dining table suspecting it is two different makers. IP: Logged |
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jersey Posts: 1203 |
posted 10-22-2009 08:21 PM
Hello! Just curious, are there any differences in the weights? Thanks Jersey IP: Logged |
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ahwt Posts: 2334 |
posted 10-22-2009 10:36 PM
An article in Wikipedia about Arthur Stone has a link to the marks that his company used and the benchmarks that his silversmiths used. The B could be for Blanchard or Brown while the W could be for Alfred Wickstrom. You would have evidence that your spoons were made within the Stone Company, if you could locate flatware with the known Stone mark together with a W that matched your W. A saved search on eBay may well turn up work with the known Stone mark and the letter W. Good hunting. IP: Logged |
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middletom Posts: 467 |
posted 11-03-2009 05:32 PM
I agree with Ulysses that there are slight differences between the two spoons which would indicate a different maker and, maybe, an attempt to match the Stone pieces. Very nice pieces, though. middletom IP: Logged |
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