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Polly

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iconnumber posted 07-08-2010 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[26-2003]

I'm posting this in the New Members forum so Elizabeth can respond. Elizabeth and I started discussing our Shiebler coffee spoons in her thread about a Tiffany fork (Unknown Tiffany Flatware Pattern) and I didn't want to drag her thread too far off topic.

Here are the ten coffee spoons I have in this pattern:

I'm missing two motifs, including one that Elizabeth posted. Over the years I've accumulated a lot of duplicates in my search for the ones I'm missing.

I've also found a set of citrus or ice cream spoons, a paper cutter, and a sugar tongs:

The sugar tongs is a slightly different motif from the others I have. I wonder whether it's the missing 12th motif or just a variant on the tentacle-looking motif that's third from the left in my photo of the coffee spoons.

The second-to-last of the coffee spoons, the rococo-looking one, is the odd spoon out, to my eye anyway, but it does belong to the set. It's my least favorite.

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 07-08-2010 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
also; Vienna Coffees

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denimrs

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iconnumber posted 07-08-2010 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for denimrs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Polly:

I'm missing two motifs, including one that Elizabeth posted.


Polly,
Which one of mine is one don't you have? I thought I saw them all in your lot of 10.

I love your "finger like squiggles" descriptions. Over the years I too have been curious about these 5 pieces I have, including the tea caddy/measuring spoon. They are certainly unlike his Homeric and Japanese/Aesthetic things, but are somehow different from what I think of as typical Victorian motifs. I am now going to go through my other silver pieces to see if I can locate any other pieces with finger like squiggles.

I have other Shiebler small spoons -- two Aesthetic from another multi-design set which I saw recently in one of my books. Is this thread appropriate to post them? Or would it be going off topic?

Elizabeth

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 07-08-2010 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Elizabeth, please post anything that you find relevant on this thread. I don't mind if it wanders around; I just didn't want to drag YOUR thread off topic, since I tend to veer off on tangents.

Please post your photos of your related Shiebler pieces in this thread. I would like to take a look at that tea caddy spoon again.

The motif I'm missing in my coffee spoons is the one on the far right in your photo.

Here is a closer, clearer shot of my coffee-spoon handles:

And the related-looking oyster fork:

The Vienna strawberry forks that Scott posted a link to are really amazing.

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denimrs

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quote:
Originally posted by Polly:
Elizabeth, please post anything that you find relevant on this thread. I don't mind if it wanders around; ....
Please post your photos of your related Shiebler pieces in this thread. I would like to take a look at that tea caddy spoon again...

Polly,
Here is the caddy spoon again. The handle is almost identical to the one on the coffee spoons, with one exception: on the coffee spoons it turns downs slightly on the end. On this caddy spoon it turns up slightly. It measures 4 7/8 inches.

And, here are two other Shiebler coffee spoons that are from another multi-motif series. I became aware they are part of a series recently when reading Joel Langford's book, "Silver, A Practical Guide to Collecting..." recently. On page 121 of his book is a picture of 12 similar spoons 10 different motifs, with two other shown in duplicate. (I hope it is OK to put the book and page number, but I am sure it is not OK to post a picture, so have not done that.)

My bat spoon is identical to one in the Langford picture. He also shows another with the same moth, but the bowl and handle design are different. I love these spoons!

Elizabeth

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vathek

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iconnumber posted 12-20-2010 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vathek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Polly: do you know the pattern name of the second one from the left in your first pic. Thanks.

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 12-20-2010 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Vathek, I don't believe the motifs have separate names. It's one pattern made up of 12 motifs.

I call the one you're asking about the mermaid motif, but that's not actually its name, just my private name for it.

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vathek

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iconnumber posted 12-21-2010 08:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vathek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Polly: the reason I asked is that I picked up a Shiebler piece in that pattern that is not a spoon but a small fork whose purpose I have yet to ascertain.

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 12-21-2010 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe an oyster fork? I think they made oyster forks in this (multi-motif) pattern. It would certainly be appropriate, what with the fish scales, tentacles, and seaweed.

Can you post a picture?

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vathek

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This is about the best pic I can get.

It measures approx. 6.5" in length and has a nice period mono on the back.

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 12-24-2010 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice fork! Maybe a pickle fork? Seems a little long for oysters.

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