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wessex96 Posts: 56 |
posted 06-24-2010 05:44 AM
  
[26-1989] This is a comment on the post 'Shiebler-Gorham Manufacturing Company' in the General Silver Forum. Just to say that I have two of the popular 'Jimmy Griffin' souvenir spoons retailed by Greenleaf & Crosby. One has the usual '[flying S] STERLING' mark of Shiebler, the other has the usual '[lion] [anchor] G STERLING' trademark of Gorham. Is this perhaps an example of a die not being destroyed after Gorham bought Shiebler? IP: Logged |
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Kimo Posts: 1627 |
posted 06-24-2010 02:00 PM
That sounds like a possibility. Another possibility I can think of is the practice of some companies of continuing to use markings from companies they have bought out to increase their sales to people who were customers or admirers of the old company and their wares. IP: Logged |
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dragonflywink Posts: 993 |
posted 06-24-2010 03:08 PM
Unless I've misunderstood, believe wessex96 is saying that one of their other spoons of the same design bears Shiebler marks and this one has Gorham marks. I've posted some information on the Shiebler-Gorham thread. ~Cheryl IP: Logged |
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wessex96 Posts: 56 |
posted 06-24-2010 03:36 PM
Dragonflywink - sorry but I am not able to respond on the General Silver Forum. Thanks for the interesting info. regarding the Palm Beach Inn, etc. However, I should have been more specific in my description. In fact the image I posted is of the Shiebler spoon. The bowl of the Gorham spoon I have is simply engraved 'Hot Springs, Va.' Ian IP: Logged |
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dragonflywink Posts: 993 |
posted 06-24-2010 05:20 PM
Hi Ian, perhaps you might consider requesting full posting privileges..... Silly me, should have asked, when I read, "Is this perhaps an example of a die not being destroyed after Gorham bought Shiebler?", just assumed that you were posting the Gorham example. At least you have the dating for the Shiebler piece. That said, can't say that it necessarily points to the Shiebler dies being used by Gorham, though it would certainly be a possibility. Hard to tell when it was made, if Greenleaf & Crosby did hold the patent to the design, they could have the very popular spoon manufactured by anyone they chose and after the patent (if it exists) expired, the design would be in public domain. Is the Gorham spoon marked for Greenleaf & Crosby too, and are the Gorham marks the simple incuse style from the late 19th century or more typical of the style Gorham would have used a few years into the 20th century? ~Cheryl IP: Logged |
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wessex96 Posts: 56 |
posted 06-25-2010 04:00 AM
Cheryl, The Shiebler spoon is stamped 'GREENLEAF & CROSBY', the Gorham spoon is stamped 'GREENLEAF & CROSBY CO.' The Gorham spoon has the more precise and uniform lettering which looks like the later style. I am unfortunately away now for a few days but will post a photo on my return. Ian IP: Logged |
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dragonflywink Posts: 993 |
posted 06-25-2010 04:35 PM
Looking forward to seeing the pictures, can't recall seeing this spoon with Gorham marks, and many of the Greenleaf & Crosby spoons that I've run across with engraved or etched dates from a few years into the 20th century and later have been a bit lower in quality than the earlier pieces, often lacking a maker's mark. I have a book on Florida souvenirs that shows a number of spoons, but it's on loan to a friend, good excuse to get it back..... ~Cheryl IP: Logged |
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wessex96 Posts: 56 |
posted 06-29-2010 05:43 AM
I enclose some photos. The Gorham spoon (Hot Springs, Va.) as well as being a little more 'knocked about' than the Shiebler, does seem to be more poorly made. The first of the following is the Gorham, the second the Shiebler. The Gorham looks like a rather rough copy of the Shiebler and certainly does not have the detail. Ian IP: Logged |
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