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worldofantiques

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iconnumber posted 12-30-2003 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for worldofantiques     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Good evening.

I have a Sterling Silver dish 9" in diameter with 6 deep depressions inside the bowl. These are 2" deep by 2 1/2" wide. The marks are Sterling 3479 under a "W" inside a circle with three Prince of Wale's plumes set horizontally either side of the circle.

My initial thought was that it was an oyster plate/dish. But they normally have depressions for 12. Then I thought maybe a Seder plate/tray/dish but the food would fall into the middle.

Any help on this item would be gratefully received.

Thank you,
Michael

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mdhavey

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iconnumber posted 01-01-2004 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mdhavey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, Michael
If the mark looks like this

then it's Frank M Whiting Co. (not to be confused with Whiting Manufacturing Co., which was bought out by Gorham. Frank M Whiting was the son of the founder of Whiting Mfg. and there was a lawsuit about the name similarity in 1896 after which the mark became the w in the circle, which is reproduced above. In 1940 it became a division of Ellmore Silver Co. (credit Rainwater, Encyclopedia of American Silver Manufacturers, 5th ed.)

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iconnumber posted 01-01-2004 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mdhavey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But why not a half dozen oysters in a dish?

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worldofantiques

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iconnumber posted 01-01-2004 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for worldofantiques     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, MD!

Although I am English and quite good with English hallmarks, American ones are a mystery to me at the moment. The marks are exactly as you described. And I guess why not, indeed, 6 oysters in a dish!

Out of interest my surname is Gorham. Sadly not related as far as I know!

Once again, thank you for your help.

Michael

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Paul Lemieux

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iconnumber posted 01-01-2004 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul Lemieux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think this is just a fruit or berry bowl, not an oyster dish. The shape is not quite right. My guess is the depressions are just part of the design.

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worldofantiques

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iconnumber posted 01-01-2004 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for worldofantiques     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Paul. I suspect you are right. I appreciate your help. Michael

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iconnumber posted 01-02-2004 12:03 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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On Dec-30-03 at 12:11:27 PST:
Sorry, I've just been told this is a Seder dish. Used at certain Jewish meals. But I think oysters would look good in it!
Michael

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iconnumber posted 01-02-2004 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul Lemieux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I've just been told this is a Seder dish

That is interesting. This seems to be deeper than most seder plates, and aren't the depressions in seder plates usually labeled and more separated from each other?

[This message has been edited by Paul Lemieux (edited 01-02-2004).]

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worldofantiques

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iconnumber posted 01-02-2004 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for worldofantiques     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HI Paul,

That comment was not posted by me. It was copied from something I added to an auction description, then withdrew the item until I discovered what it might be. If you look at who posted it, it says "Friend of WOA". Whoever that is!

I agree with you, there is no way it's a Seder dish, plate or tray. The depressions are too steep and not deep enough.

Michael

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