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Barb Bates Posts: 3 Registered: Dec 2004	posted 12-20-2004 12:17 PM I have a Stieff tray, 11 ins. square. The back has on it: Crown (symbol) S THE STIEFF COMPANY on the other side of tray: 925 STERLING 1000 There are no date codes. I think it's the rose pattern. Can anyone tell me the time it was made? Thanks for your help. IP: Logged
mdhavey Posts: 164 Registered: Dec 2003	posted 12-21-2004 11:13 AM Stieff used letters and symbols to date their holloware from 1901 to the late 1970s. The letter S is actually the date code for 1952. "Rose" pattern is from 1937, but "Rose Motif" is from 1953-1954 so your piece could very well be from the mid 1950s. IP: Logged
Barb Bates Posts: 3 Registered: Dec 2004	posted 12-21-2004 11:34 AM Thank you for your reply. I hav'nt been able to find any web sites with pattern names and dates for Stieff, which would tell me if it's Rose or Rose motif. But if "Rose Motif" was'nt made until 1953, then my tray might be "Rose", since it was made in 1952. I would like to know what the name of the piece is. Again, thanks for the info. IP: Logged
mdhavey Posts: 164 Registered: Dec 2003	posted 12-21-2004 02:24 PM Except for very popular patterns, the flatware designs were usually just made in the patent year. Stieff's Rose, however, was just such a popular pattern. There are several good reference works for flatware, one of which is Warman's Sterling Flatware Identification Guide. Most of them lump Stieff with Kirk (Kirk/Stieff) with which it merged in 1979. Knowing the flatware pattern can sometimes be a clue to the name of the holloware pattern, but just as often the holloware is its own, unnamed pattern. IP: Logged

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