SMP Logo
SM Publications
Silver Salon Forums - The premier site for discussing Silver.
SMP | Silver Salon Forums | SSF - Guidelines | SSF - FAQ | Silver Sales

The Silver Salon Forums
Since 1993
Over 11,793 threads & 64,769 posts !!
American Sterling Silver Forum
How to Post Photos REGISTER (click here)

customtitle open  SMP Silver Salon Forums
tlineopen  American Sterling Silver
tline3open  Pair of Ornate Spoons, American?

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
profile | register | preferences | faq | search

ForumFriend SSFFriend: Email This Page to Someone! next newest topic | next oldest topic
Author Topic:   Pair of Ornate Spoons, American?

Posts: 125
Registered: Oct 2003

iconnumber posted 05-10-2005 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scotia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Hi there,

I purchased this fine pair of spoons today at a local antique shop. On the reverse, they are marked "Sterling", "PAT AP 23 1901" and at the stem/bowl join, there is what looks like a side on lion holding a shield with a "W" on it and also another symbol above, which looks like a Gothic letter "O". I was wondering if anyone could tell me the maker and country of origin. The new Tardy's still is not published but the Book Dealer has reserved me a copy as soon as it comes out!

IP: Logged

Patrick Vyvyan

Posts: 640
Registered: May 2003

iconnumber posted 05-10-2005 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Patrick Vyvyan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think your spoons are King Edward pattern by the Whiting Manufacturing Co. of New York

IP: Logged


Posts: 326
Registered: Oct 2004

iconnumber posted 05-10-2005 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IJP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What you have there is King Edward by Whiting (1901). The Whiting Mfg. Co. operated from 1866 until its purchase by Gorham in 1924, first in Attleboro, MA, then in New York, NY. Naturally, Tardy isn't going to help you at all with something like this. For American marks, I use Rainwater's Encyclopedia of American Silver Manufacturers, and to identify the more common American patterns, I use Jeweler's Circular/Keystone. Tardy is good, for example, if I see a mark, and I know it's Continental or from some other country about whose silver and silver marks I know little, and I want an idea of what those marks mean. It will not identify makers, only country of origin, the fineness, and sometimes a rough idea of the date.

IP: Logged


Posts: 125
Registered: Oct 2003

iconnumber posted 05-10-2005 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scotia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Thanks for the info. I have just ordered the book online now.

IP: Logged

All times are ET

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Administrative Options: Close Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic
Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:

Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a

1. Public Silver Forums (open Free membership) - anyone with a valid e-mail address may register. Once you have received your Silver Salon Forum password, and then if you abide by the Silver Salon Forum Guidelines, you may start a thread or post a reply in the New Members' Forum. New Members who show a continued willingness to participate, to completely read and abide by the Guidelines will be allowed to post to the Member Public Forums.
Click here to Register for a Free password

2. Private Silver Salon Forums (invitational or $ donation membership) - The Private Silver Salon Forums require registration and special authorization to view, search, start a thread or to post a reply. Special authorization can be obtained in one of several ways: by Invitation; Annual $ Donation; or via Special Limited Membership. For more details click here (under development).

3. Administrative/Special Private Forums (special membership required) - These forums are reserved for special subjects or administrative discussion. These forums are not open to the public and require special authorization to view or post.

| Home | Order | The Guide to Evaluating Gold & Silver Objects | The Book of Silver
| Update BOS Registration | Silver Library | For Sale | Our Wants List | Silver Dealers | Speakers Bureau |
| Silversmiths | How to set a table | Shows | SMP | Silver News |
copyright © 1993 - 2020 SM Publications
All Rights Reserved.
Legal & Privacy Notices