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Richard Kurtzman
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iconnumber posted 03-24-2006 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Richard Kurtzman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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This piece belongs to Jersey and she showed it to me at the Pier Show. It has me stumped. I've never seen it before. Anybody have any idea as to maker or pattern?

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J W Cusack, Jeweler c1866-c1880 Troy New York

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iconnumber posted 03-30-2006 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Richard Kurtzman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wm. Kelly sent me these photos of another piece in this pattern.

He wrote:
    "I have an all-silver pie server with a handle that is nearly identical to the piece pictured in your post. It is 9.1" long and weighs 3.4 oz troy.

    The pattern of scrolls on the divided portion of the handle -- i.e., between the two "beads" -- appears to be identical to the fork. There is some variation in the pattern of scrolls on the remainder of the handle."

His piece has the same sterling and 2 mark, but this time the retailer's mark is Geo. C. Shreve & Co. of San Francisco. This would date this piece to 1894 or earlier according to Rainwater.

Anyone else have other pieces or information?

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Tad, Where did you get the information on J W Cusack? Stylistically the design of the handle appears to be later than 1880. In fact it looks somewhat like the border of Whiting's Louis XV.

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iconnumber posted 03-30-2006 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tad Hale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Richard,

Here are a few of URL'S for that information. This first link shows a 18k Bangle Bracelet c 1880, Item # 521. [<gone from the Interne> tdupuis.ca/images/Boutique_June2005.pd]

Another URL is [<gone from the Interne> downerauctioneers.com/auc23/v.shtml]

Another URL has

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Richard,

The dates I was giving are dates that I found in the search. Cusack apparently worked later but I did not have any later dates. He also appears to have been in the military in 1867. You are right about the piece looking like Whitings "Louis XV" pattern, as I have had several pieces of holloware in that pattern, with the same style of ornamentation.

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Tad, The Downer link shows a connection with Whiting but there is nothing conclusive regarding when Cusack closed.

Also, here are a couple of excerpts from the Diary of C. A. Miller of Troy, 1867 which I thought would be of interest regarding Cusack and the National Guard.

Fri. Mar. 22 - Hiram Coon the Murderer of Mrs. Laker at Petersburgh was hung in the county jail today at 12:30; turned out with Co. G. Capt. Cusack to guard jail during the execution, with Co. D. Capt. Scott and 40 policemen under command of Capt. Squires.

Thurs. Aug. 8 - Election to fill vacancy caused by promotion of Capt. J. W. Cusack to Major of 24th Regt. N.G.S.N.Y. 1st Lieut. G. G. Wolfe to Capt. 2nd Lieut. J. M. Carey to 1st Lieut. Sargt. A. W. Scribner to 2nd Lieut. After election we adjourned to Charley Waldheim's.

There is also a James W. Cusack listed in a meeting of prominent residents of Troy in December of 1888 to arrange a 100th anniversary celebration of the city being renamed Troy. Up until January 1789 it was known as Vanderheyden.

Could this be the same JW Cusack? Or possibly his son?

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Richard,
Here is another link for a James W. Cusack wedding to Kittie Stone in Troy on 10/16/1892.

    [<gone from the internet> .rootsweb.com/~nytigs/BurdenMarriages-Q_R_S.htm]
    Burden Iron Works Marriage Records
    Marriage Records with Troy, NY area connections.
    Extracted from records compiled by the Burden Iron Company
    Q - R - S Surnames

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CUSACK-STONE-In this city, October 16, by the Rev. Eaton W. Maxey, D. D., JAMES W. CUSACK to Mrs. KITTIE STONE, both of this city. No cards.

I believe his father might be James W. Cusack, a surgeon.

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Richard, Here is his death date 4/11/1898.
St John's Communicants 1880-1900


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Hi Richard!

I am finally back for a minute somewhat from some personal business (I think), and my brain is fried.

I thank you soooooooooo much for posting my fork.

To all of you who have responded I am are overwhelmed & very grateful.

I hope we can get the pattern name, and the mystery maker. Maybe it was some special order.

I love the pie server. What I like about the piece is you can grip it if you like.

I also feel I have stepped into Geneology102.......Love it!

Thank you all, I look forward to more info.
Jersey

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