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vathek

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iconnumber posted 06-10-2007 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vathek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The seller describes this an ice cream knife, but I would have called it a fish slice.



Is there a pronounced difference between the two?

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Dale

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iconnumber posted 06-10-2007 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would have offered it as a cake knive. The little swoops on the upraised part of the blade are great for scoring the cake with lines to cut on. Since the cake sits on a raised pedestal, all that needs to happen is to scoot it onto a waiting plate.

The modern cake server seems to be a direct descendent of the Victorian pie server. The cake knives sort of went into hibernation and only come out in wedding sets.

Nice piece.

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Richard Kurtzman
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iconnumber posted 06-11-2007 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Richard Kurtzman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe that the seller is correct and that is an ice cream slicer.

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Paul S

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iconnumber posted 06-13-2007 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Vathek-

I am the seller of this piece. Your post and Paul’s reply got me wondering about it. I looked through the CD of the old Gorham catalogs seeing if I could find this piece, but couldn’t. I did find ice cream slices in Marie Antoinette and Fontainebleau (both patterns made around the same era) that were similar in shape, but it was hard to tell if they had the curved side on the blade. Fish servers of this era seemed to be larger and look more like a modern day pie server or spatula. As I tell my customers, you can use it to serve whatever you please… fish or cake and I doubt anyone will be the wiser. I know the last time I served ice cream I used a scoop.

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vathek

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iconnumber posted 06-14-2007 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vathek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the response Paul S and please realize my inquiry is strictly academic and not intended to question your description of the item.

Georgian type fish slices are pretty obvious, but the form seems to have changed later in the 19c and the proliferation of Victorian serving pieces muddies the water. I'm not really even sure if there was a standard form for cake at this time, e.g. flatter and square rather than multilayer and round? (something of a form follows function thing).

The fact that you couldn't find this in any of the catalogs seems to show there are still gaps even in well documented manufacturers like Gorham.

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