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Polly

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iconnumber posted 12-11-2014 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have three American sterling perfume flasks c. 1890s with nautical-looking pearl-like patterns, one by Gorham and the other two by Whiting. All of them marked with the Whiting beastie or Gorham lion, anchor, G as well as a model number; the simpler Whiting flask is also marked PAT 1894 (or possibly 1874, but I'm pretty sure it's a 9).

I assume the Whiting ones have a connection to Charles Osborne, but could he also have designed the similar Gorham one? Or is it more likely that the Gorham designers were trying to make something that looked like his patterns?

The Gorham one is the one at the bottom here; the top two are Whiting:

In my hand, to show scale:

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ahwt

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iconnumber posted 12-16-2014 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't have a good answer for your question, but Charles Osborne did leave Whiting to become a designer for Tiffany. Some of the information on the internet indicates that he may have continued to provide designs to Whiting after he started with Tiffany, but I could not find anything that would tie him to Gorham.
Your suggestion that Gorham designers were simply following Osborne’s lead may be right or maybe he was following Gorham’s design or they were both following some other designer in the fashion world. All three designs are filled with energy and maybe that is why they are still attractive today.

The Gorham flask does have a wave like suggestion but not as swirling motion as the wave patterns in the two Whiting flasks. Dr. Edwardes from the movie Spellbound would go into one of his trances when he saw the parallel lines on the Gorham flask, but then he would have Dr. Petersen to rescue him.

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 12-17-2014 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for responding, awht.

I showed these in person to Richard Kurtzman last weekend, and he said he was certain the two Whiting ones were by Osborne and the Gorham one wasn't, based partly on the same "swirliness" criterion you observe. (But mostly based on the fact that Osborne worked for Whiting and not for Gorham.)

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 11-09-2018 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whiting Fantasy pattern jar:

With the perfumes: Two Whiting Fantasy on the left, then a Gorham horn and two Gorham examples with pearling and hornlike texture.

What do you think this jar was meant to hold?

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asheland

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iconnumber posted 11-12-2018 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for asheland     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tea Caddy?

Those are SWEET!

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 11-13-2018 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, asheland! I'm using it for tea, anyway. I love this "pearling" pattern.

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ahwt

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iconnumber posted 11-14-2018 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is a very nice jar. Was Theodore B. Stark the retailer?

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 11-14-2018 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you. Yes, the retailer.

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Scott Martin
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Starr not Stark

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