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Polly

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iconnumber posted 10-04-2017 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello, fans of 19th c figural silver. Ever seen a Whiting figural pickle dish? I hadn't, till I found this one. I've seen one by Wood & Hughes (if anyone out there has one, please post!), but never Whiting.

I imagine this is from the 1870s--can anyone date it from the model number? It's 9 1/2" long and 3" wide. It arrived black with tarnish, and it could still use more polishing, but my hands got tired after an hour or so.

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Polly

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June Martin
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iconnumber posted 10-04-2017 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for June Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Polly, it's gorgeous!

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 10-05-2017 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, June!

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asheland

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Super cool!

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agleopar

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What a find! What a classic, not a Vlasic!

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 10-06-2017 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you! Here's the front end:

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ahwt

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iconnumber posted 10-08-2017 12:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I did not realize that there were pickle dishes and this is a great one. Thanks for posting it.

[This message has been edited by ahwt (edited 10-08-2017).]

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 10-08-2017 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A Wood & Hughes pickle dish, which is similar and has a cute little pickle attached.


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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 10-08-2017 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
smile

I wonder if there is/was a stylized companion tong or fork serving piece?

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 10-08-2017 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just to clarify, I do not own the W&H dish, only the Whiting one.

I've never seen a matching fork or tongs for either the Whiting or the W&H pickle dish, but the Gorham olive tongs harmonizes well:

The Gorham olive tongs--and related serving pieces, such as an olive spear/spoon, a fork, etc--match an olive-shaped figural bowl that Gorham made. I don't like that bowl, but it seems to have been pretty popular (I've seen a lot of examples)--I wonder if these pickle dishes are Whiting's and W&H's response to that bowl.

Today I'm going to the pickle man to get some goodies to put in my pickle bowl.

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Scott Martin
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I also wonder how well the gold vermeil would hold up to the very strong brine (vinegar & pickling salt) of today's dill pickles? Especially if it was a long period of time that the pickles were in the silver vermeil.

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 10-08-2017 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those tongs look good!

A trip to the lower east side or is there a pickle man closer to home?

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 10-08-2017 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's a Sunday flea market at an Upper West Side school, where there are antique dealers (including one of our members, who will get to see this dish in person if he's there today) and food vendors. One of the regular food vendors is a pickle man--I think his regular store is on the LES. And there's a guy from Paris who sells the most delicious ice cream--I look forward all week to his olive oil ice cream, though he doesn't always bring it. Yes, I don't plan to leave the pickles sitting in the dish for any length of time--there's practically no gilding left in this dish already.

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June Martin
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Oh, Polly, now you've got my ice cream gene aroused.

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 10-08-2017 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sadly, the ice cream guy didn't have any olive oil ice cream--I had to settle for pumpkin spice. Pity me! Also, Richard and Susan weren't there. But I did get a pint of half-sours and a pint of horseradish pickles. Haven't tried them in the pickle dish yet. It really wants little gherkins, not big pickles, but I think they'll work fine if I slice them.

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asheland

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That is a cool dish! smile
Polly, I don't know if you collect auction catalogues or books on the subject, but if so, you should seek the catalogue for the Sam Wagstaff sale (Christie's 1989)

It's full of American Silver from this period.

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 10-09-2017 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, asheland! I will keep an eye out for that catalogue--not seeing any affordable copies in Internetland at the moment, but there's always tomorrow.

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asheland

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I've seen that it can be priced VERY high, but be patient...

I got my copy AND the Carpender sale catalogue (Gorham and Tiffany book author) together for a fraction of what the Wagstaff catalogue alone typically sells for. One will eventually show up. smile

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