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seaduck

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iconnumber posted 04-14-2021 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seaduck     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A friend, who is a longtime collector and far more knowledgeable than I, recently came across a piece for which she cannot identify the intended use. She is guessing some sort of petit-four server. Sounds good to me! But we agree that the shape of the serving blade is unusual. I told her I would ask Those Who Know These Things. (That would be you!)

The handle is ivory. The mark is rubbed, but she believes it is Whiting. Any ideas?


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June Martin
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iconnumber posted 04-15-2021 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for June Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How sturdy is the blade? The shape reminds me of old time blocks of ice cream.

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seaduck

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iconnumber posted 04-15-2021 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seaduck     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi June--My friend reports that the blade is very sturdy and thinks you might be onto something.

I just did a very quick image search for old ice cream spades. Didn't find much. But I think most of what I saw had a slight shaping or slight scooping. This one looks flat. Have you seen flat spades?

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iconnumber posted 04-15-2021 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for June Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is an example of the ice cream slice form I have seen that reminded me of the shape of your friend's piece.

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iconnumber posted 04-15-2021 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think things like this get reintroduced to broaden the market place...besides Ice Cream I believe it has been a Lasagna Server.

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seaduck

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iconnumber posted 04-15-2021 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seaduck     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aha-- I'm afraid I misunderstood in the flurry of email with my friend. I had thought that maybe there was a distinction between an ice cream slice and an ice cream spade. I had only thought of slices as having an off-center handle, like a butcher's knife. (I'm not well versed in this area of collecting.)

This piece might well work as a slice. I'll suggest to my friend that she decant a container of ice cream and give it a whirl!

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iconnumber posted 04-15-2021 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seaduck     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Replying to Scott.......y'know, it would make a pretty swell burrito server.

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Silverpath

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iconnumber posted 04-15-2021 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Silverpath     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It looks French to me. I cannot see the marks on the blade well enough to be sure but it looks like a French purity mark and a lozenge maker's mark. The style of the ivory handle looks French, too. French hors d'oeuvre sets often include a piece like this. A quick search turned up one of this shape as part of a set and with almost identical engraving by Soufflot. I am not sure how the piece would be used in serving though.

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 04-15-2021 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To compliment the burritos:

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iconnumber posted 04-15-2021 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I suspect handle is not ivory but rather celluloid or bone ... also see: Ivory : Genuine, Fake, and Confusing

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iconnumber posted 04-16-2021 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Last night, June was wondering if I made it up about Lasagna Server .... I wasn't:

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seaduck

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iconnumber posted 04-16-2021 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for seaduck     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Silverpath--
I think you've solved it! I just did an image search on French silver hors d'oeuvres sets. I found several sets including a piece that were similar and then -- ta da! -- a piece with that same trowel shape blade. (It was posted on The Big Auction Site where it was called a dessert/hors d'oeuvres set. The maker wasn't listed, but it was described as a French heraldic crown design.)


Many thanks! I think June is now on the prowl for Scott's new lasagna/pizza server.

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