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mountain8

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iconnumber posted 04-05-2000 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mountain8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Mr Dietz and silver collectors.

I have located a sugar shaker with maker marks I haven't been able to locate. I don't believe it's plate, but have been wrong before.

The shaker is topped with a finial that copies the shaker.

The holes are in a diamond pattern with a last hole in the middle of the diamond.

It is primarily pear shaped on a skirt type base.

There is an embossed leaf (and grape?) (3/8"?)pattern ring around the middle, the same around the skirt/foot and there are two (3/16"?)smooth rings just below the holes.

It is 4.5" high and 2" widest diameter.

The maker marks are three, side by side, on the underside of the shaker, centered.

Far left - Small box surrounding what looks like a lion, facing right, with one paw raised to head level. The animal is embossed in the sunken box.

Above the box is what looks similar to an american oak leaf cluster. I believe it is a stylized oak tree with five branches and what may be an acorn at the junction of the five branches. The branches are pyramidally spaced around a branch/staff. The lowest two are slender and slightly waved. The upper two and the topmost branch/leaves, together form what looks more like a shamrock than branches.

Middle mark - An equal small square with an embossed 5 pointed star.

Above the box is a very nice crown with three dots (jewels?) in the band. The crown is bulbous, like the crown of england, rather than pointed, like the imagined crown of Arthur. There are two antenna/rabbit ears (?) sticking out the top of the crown, emitting from a small ball.

Far right - The small box is a repeat of the Far left one, with the animal. Above it is a lion on its hind legs (I can't remember the term), like in hearldry.

I couldn't find a match in my meager resources of on line. Can you help me?

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Ulysses Dietz
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iconnumber posted 04-16-2000 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ulysses Dietz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That sort of mark does not sound like anything American, nor anything sterling. It seems to me to be like the pseudo hallmarks that ENglish plating companies used in the 19th century. It is hard to be sure without knowing what the piece looks like, but your description seems to be of a caster (a little small for sugar?) from the second quarter of the 19th century, closer to 1850 than not. American plating companies didn't usually resort to the pseudo hallmarks, but I'm no expert on the earliest AMerican electroplaters.

Any other ideas out there, folks?

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mountain8

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iconnumber posted 04-16-2000 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mountain8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you sir. At least it's a start. Perhaps someone else knows something.

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