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kennethjes

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iconnumber posted 07-05-2000 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kennethjes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a large mug that is leather over copper (or perhaps another metal). It is almost 8 inches tall and the diameter is about 5 inches. It holds about 48 oz of water. It also has an all leather handle. There are sterling mounts at the top and bottom as well as a sterling shield (which is 3 inches tall). It has faint set of three hallmarks (best guess is like Gorham's). There is also a set of letters and numbers "AY 453" as well as a set of three letters in a triangle pattern that are either "VIC" or "VTC". I have searched dozens of books on silver without any success. Does anyone know about these leather mugs?

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 07-05-2000 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your tankard is a Blackjack. It was used for drinking beer or ale. Originally Blackjacks were popularized in Chester England during the 17th & 18th centuries. Without seeing the marks it will be hard to speculate further.

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roy

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iconnumber posted 07-12-2000 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for roy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Scott Martin:
Your tankard is a Blackjack. It was used for drinking beer or ale. Originally Blackjacks were popularized in Chester England during the 17th & 18th centuries. Without seeing the marks it will be hard to speculate further.

a very nice looking Blackjack, black for its color,they were coated with tar to water proof them,particularly the stitches. Jack is an old term for a vessal.


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iconnumber posted 09-17-2011 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
see: Blackjack

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Ulysses Dietz
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iconnumber posted 11-08-2011 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ulysses Dietz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've never actually seen one of these in person; but they surely represent one aspect of the "ye olde" phenomenon of the early 20th century - the fascination for archaic, largely English, artifacts, that could be associated with Anglo-philic lifestyles (i.e. upper-echelon suburban and country life in America)...think of Georgian and Tudor country houses and you'll have the context, from great estates to suburban settings. It blows my mind that there was any market for Gorham's new blackjacks...and yet there was.

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