SMP Logo
SM Publications
Silver Salon Forums - The premier site for discussing Silver.
SMP | Silver Salon Forums | SSF - Guidelines | SSF - FAQ | Silver Sales

The Silver Salon Forums
Since 1993
Over 11,793 threads & 64,769 posts !!
20th/21st Century Silversmiths Forum
How to Post Photos REGISTER (click here)

customtitle open  SMP Silver Salon Forums
tlineopen  20th/21st Century Silversmiths
tline3open  Unknown Mark

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
profile | register | preferences | faq | search

ForumFriend SSFFriend: Email This Page to Someone! next newest topic | next oldest topic
Author Topic:   Unknown Mark
Doc4Tots
unregistered
iconnumber posted 08-21-2000 06:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is sort of a long shot, but I have tried all other resources and thought I would give the forum a try. The mark I am trying to identify is actually on a copper piece, but I am posting the question here in case the same firm worked in silver as well. The mark consists of a shield containing a pair of crossed axes or maces in the form of an "X". In the spaces left to the left, right, and below the point where the shafts of the maces intersect are the capital block letters C, E, and D (reading from right to lower to left).
Hope someone has run across this one before!

IP: Logged

Brent

Posts: 1507
Registered: May 99

iconnumber posted 08-23-2000 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unfortunately, the mark rings no bells for me. What does the piece look like? Is it of the Arts & Crafts Style, Modern, or Revival? It may well be European, and there are few references for European metalwork other than silver. I will do what I can, though!

Brent

IP: Logged

Brent

Posts: 1507
Registered: May 99

iconnumber posted 09-17-2000 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just found a piece with your mark illustrated in a back issue of Silver magazine. The piece was an elegant silver plated Art Nouveau coffee pot. Unfortunately, they didn't know the maker either. The Silver answer man, Charles Williams, thought it was American. I'm still not sure! Oh, well!

IP: Logged

wev
Moderator

Posts: 4121
Registered: Apr 99

iconnumber posted 09-17-2000 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Which issue?

wev

IP: Logged

Brent

Posts: 1507
Registered: May 99

iconnumber posted 09-17-2000 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
July-August 1988. The more I look at the piece illustrated, the more English it looks to me. If you have the issue, take a look. The motifs are very Archibald Knox-looking, with maybe some Mackintosh thrown in. I don't think it is American, regardless! What do you think?

IP: Logged

Doc4Tots
unregistered
iconnumber posted 09-26-2000 03:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, again....I have a strong suspicion that the mark is English. We have three different pieces with this mark – a pair of fabulous candlesticks in Brittania metal with copper flashing, a small (4 x 3 x 2 1/2) copper cigarette(?) box and a larger (12 x 7 x 3) brass box with wooden lining (humidor?). All are very suggestive of English or possibly German Arts & Crafts styling. Motifs include Ginko leaves and Mackintosh-like tulips.

IP: Logged

tagny

Posts: 6
Registered: Jan 2001

iconnumber posted 02-08-2001 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tagny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Years ago, a German dealer passing through my shop identified the mark as being for Carl Dettner of Esslingen, Germany

IP: Logged

Brent

Posts: 1507
Registered: May 99

iconnumber posted 02-09-2001 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the info, tagny! It makes sense to me. Can anyone corroborate this testimony?

IP: Logged

tag)ny
unregistered
iconnumber posted 07-12-2001 02:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, I just came across a piece by this firm in an auction catalog by Quittenbaum in Munich. The name is Deffner, not Dettner, otherwise all of the info is correct.

IP: Logged

All times are ET

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Administrative Options: Close Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic
Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:


Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a


1. Public Silver Forums (open Free membership) - anyone with a valid e-mail address may register. Once you have received your Silver Salon Forum password, and then if you abide by the Silver Salon Forum Guidelines, you may start a thread or post a reply in the New Members' Forum. New Members who show a continued willingness to participate, to completely read and abide by the Guidelines will be allowed to post to the Member Public Forums.
Click here to Register for a Free password

2. Private Silver Salon Forums (invitational or $ donation membership) - The Private Silver Salon Forums require registration and special authorization to view, search, start a thread or to post a reply. Special authorization can be obtained in one of several ways: by Invitation; Annual $ Donation; or via Special Limited Membership. For more details click here (under development).

3. Administrative/Special Private Forums (special membership required) - These forums are reserved for special subjects or administrative discussion. These forums are not open to the public and require special authorization to view or post.


| Home | Order | The Guide to Evaluating Gold & Silver Objects | The Book of Silver
| Update BOS Registration | Silver Library | For Sale | Our Wants List | Silver Dealers | Speakers Bureau |
| Silversmiths | How to set a table | Shows | SMP | Silver News |
copyright © 1993 - 2022 SM Publications
All Rights Reserved.
Legal & Privacy Notices