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Jan's Inheritance

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iconnumber posted 03-03-2003 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jan's Inheritance     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've seen lots of references to Rogers, 1847 Rogers, and Rogers & Bros., but I have a plain serving spoon labeled "Rogers & Bro. German Silver". Is this a completely different entity than the other Rogers'? Thanks, Jan

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Stephen

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iconnumber posted 03-03-2003 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stephen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rainwater/Redfield's "Encyclopedia of American Silver Manufacturers" contains thirteen pages describing the Rogers individuals, partnerships, and companies. The Rogers name was used in more than 100 different marks and trademarks by these entities and their successors. So, by itself, the term Rogers is fairly meaningless.

"1847 Rogers" most likely refers to 1847 Rogers Bros., a trademark first used by the Meriden Britannia Co. and then by its successor the International Silver Co., both located in Meriden, Connecticut.

"Rogers & Bros.", is not the name of a Rogers partnership or company, nor a Rogers mark or trademark. Rogers & Bro. is a trademark used by Rogers & Brother of Waterbury, Connecticut. They became part of the International Silver Co. in 1898. Plain pattern tea spoons, dessert spoons, and table spoons (all unplated) with the Rogers & Bro. German Silver mark were shown in the 1892 Rogers and Brother catalog. German silver is an alloy of copper, zinc, and nickel -- no silver.

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wev
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iconnumber posted 03-03-2003 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The various suits and cross-suits kept the trademark courts busy for a decade! I've given up trying to trace out all the permutations on my site.

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Jan's Inheritance

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iconnumber posted 03-04-2003 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jan's Inheritance     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, Geez, no wonder I've been so confused. I guess the references to Rogers & Bro"s" was a mistake on the part of the person representing their item. I presume from your def of German silver that my item carries sentimental value and not much else. Thanks for clearing up a mystery that was driving me crazy! --Jan

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Stephen

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iconnumber posted 03-05-2003 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stephen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found this description on a listing on eBay: "ROGERS & BROS. ... SPOON... THE BACK IS MARKED STAR, ROGERS & BROS. A."

I sent the seller an E-mail: (Duh) "Is this marked "Rogers & Bro" or "Rogers & Bros"? Can you provide a photo of the mark?"

Response from seller: "I tried several times unsuccessfully to obtain a photo of marking for you. My camera just is too cheap to take a clear close-up. Anyway the marking is * ROGERS & BRO Al"

Photos do help.

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 03-05-2003 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
here are some examples:

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Stephen

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iconnumber posted 03-05-2003 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stephen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Note that none of the above marks are shown in Rainwater. Similar ones are shown under Rogers & Bro., none are shown under International Silver Co. No wonder we get confused.

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