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Brent

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iconnumber posted 09-21-2000 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[17-0048 17-0306]

This, finally, is the mark of Carl Poul Petersen, a skilled Canadian silversmith little-known in the US. I have mentioned this mark in past posts, notably the topic on Philip Paval. The distinctive PP mark can also be found on silver alone, without the PETERSEN stamp. The mark on the right is the Canadian national sterling mark, instituted in 1934. It depicts a lion's head (erased) within a C. It can also be an intaglio style mark, rather than the incuse mark on this piece. If you see this mark on a piece of silver, it is Canadian, post 1934.

Carl Poul Petersen was trained at George Jensen in Denmark before emigrating to Montreal in 1929. He first worked at Henry Birks and Sons before setting up his own shop in 1944. By 1947 he employed over 20 workmen. C.P. Petersen & Sons was in business until 1979, Mr. Petersen himself dying in 1977.

Petersen was not an innovator, but his work is notable for its quality. Having trained at Jensen, his designs closely resemble Jensen's work from 1912-1923. He produced 11 different flatware patterns and coordinated holloware, silver jewelry and a line of Judaica. His production was largely by hand; each piece of flatware was hand wrought!

Petersen is also responsible for the current Stanley Cup! He was commissioned to redesign the cup in 1962, and he was responsible for repairs and engraving for many years thereafter. I believe the responsibility passed to Tiffany after Petersen's demise, but I am not certain.

Anyway, keep an eye out for Petersen silver. 65% of their production was sold in the U.S., so it should be found throughout the continent. If you have Jensen tastes without the Jensen budget, Petersen may be for you!

(Thanks to Dorothea Burstyn for all of this information!)

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 12-24-2000 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, it's not the Stanley Cup but here it is ...

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jersey

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iconnumber posted 12-02-2006 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jersey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello!

..........a "faux" Stanley cup. Do you know what type of piece it is, what it is called? What is the size?

Thank you, for any info.

Jersey

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 12-02-2006 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't have it on premises but as I recall 2.5 to 3 inches high.

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jersey

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iconnumber posted 12-02-2006 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jersey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Scott!
Thank you. Could it possibly be an egg cup, or a salt?
Jersey

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iconnumber posted 12-02-2006 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok -- I don't recall

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jersey

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iconnumber posted 12-19-2006 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jersey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Again!
A request please. Are there any catalogs or books available that show his works, especially flatware designs. I have tried to find something but to no avail.
Thank you in advance for any help as usual.
Jersey

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 12-19-2006 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Carl Poul Petersen, Silversmith

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jersey

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iconnumber posted 12-19-2006 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jersey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Scott!
Thank you so much! I must have missed that thread.
Jersey

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Paul Lemieux

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iconnumber posted 04-02-2007 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul Lemieux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jersey has sent me a couple pictures of this Petersen fork and would like to know what it is used for. My guess was a cocktail fork, but I'm waiting to hear what the exact dimensions are. Here are a couple of photographs:

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Kayvee

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iconnumber posted 04-02-2007 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kayvee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is some information about Petersen’s flatware patterns taken from the catalogue of the retrospective exhibit of his work at the Montreal Museum of Fine Arts:
“Never abstract or conceptual, Petersen tableware was influenced by the Art Nouveau organic style typical of Jensen, but was more discreet and less flamboyant….”
“Eleven stock silver flatware patterns included Dolphin, Pearl, Wild Berrie [sic], Viking (modelled after Jensen’s Continental or Antik pattern of 1908), New Wood, Old Wood, Vine, Empire, Old English, Modern and Corn, and were available in satin, high polish or martelé finishes. The embellishment was either stamped or soldered on the piece, depending on the desired effect of relief. Occasionally, areas of silver were oxidized for aesthetic effect to create shadows and thereby highlight the ornament.”
“Nature constituted an endless source of imagery for Petersen, who readily drew inspiration from Canada’s natural environment. His was a conservative modernism, expressed in terms of the spare designs he employed for forms. His minimal concession to ornament can be seen in beautifully sculpted silver handles or finials for vessels and serving pieces.”
I think Jersey’s fork exemplifies everything that is distinctive about Petersen’s silver. I can’t see the pattern very clearly, but it looks like it might be Corn. The length would give a clue to use. I think it is more likely a serving piece than an eating fork.

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jersey

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iconnumber posted 04-02-2007 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jersey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Paul!

Thank you so much for posting the fork for me, I am very grateful for you help.

To both you and Kayvee, the fork is 6" long. Thank you too Kayvee for your wonderful information.

Can you tell me perhaps the date of the mark.

All the best.
Jersey

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Kayvee

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iconnumber posted 04-03-2007 08:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kayvee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The mark on your fork is Petersen's usual one, in use during his years in business from 1946-1979 on Mackay Street in Montreal. Unfortunately, Petersen's works were not dated and the account books that might have been used to date the production of stock items against the registry of sales are no longer available.
The wire tines and lack of any kind of bowl on your fork makes me think that it was not intended for eating, but rather for serving such foods as cold meats, pickles, lemons, etc. This is only a guess on my part.
Enjoy your beautiful fork!

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Hello Kayvee!

Thank you so much for the info. Pickles were my first guess. But a fork is a fork is a fork, however you want to use it. I had intended it for a Canadian friend but have decided I needed something more formidable to give. I'll keep looking for him. Meantime I'll keep it and use it on our Easter dinner table and add to the history of my mixed serving pieces. My kids just love it when I add new pieces. They think I'm a bit off the wall anyway.

Happy Holiday!
Jersey

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Scott Martin
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Nice to see the origins of such an iconic trophy! Talented smith, I’m jealous of any that started in Jensen’s.
Also it gives me hope seeing him bodging away (that’s jokingly said) that I might eak out a few more years!!

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jersey

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So sad that the rings around the cup get removed every 20 years to make room for new names because they say the trophy is getting too big to be carried around on the ice by the players.
An after thought is that the players are getting bigger too...LOL!

Congratulations to the Capitals too this year.

Thank you posthumously to Carl Poul for the privilege to have had the honor of holding it.

Jersey

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