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asheland

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iconnumber posted 07-22-2014 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for asheland     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just bought a piece in this pattern. And I'm curious, is the feather edge engraving on it engraved entirely by hand? And if so, who does it? The silversmith that made it? Or is there an engraver there that just does that type of thing?

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middletom

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iconnumber posted 09-23-2014 09:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for middletom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been away for some time, obviously, but I'll fill you in on what's what with the York pattern. Swift Barnes, the owner of the company when I came on board, instituted that pattern some time in the seventies. The feather edge is hand engraved but not by the silversmith who made the piece. The basic pattern is our Wilton and a "Wilton" piece made by one of the smiths might be turned into York to fill an order.
The original engraving was done by Lambert & Goodnough. In the later nineties, they informed us that they would no longer be able to do the engraving for us because the gentleman who did the engraving had retired. That type of work was a specialty of his and his work was so precise it appeared to be perfect. We searched about looking for someone else to do that engraving, several saying it had to have been done by a machine because it was so exact. Lambert & Goodnough said that if they had a machine to do that then they would still be doing it. Some who tried to match the old engraving made such a mess of it, others could engrave up one side of the piece, but could not make the other side match their first side. We had pretty much decided to eliminate York from our offerings, when one day a young man stopped into our shop with one of our York teaspoons he had engraved. It was perfect, just like the original pieces. He was Adam Amara and he had worked at Tiffany, learning engraving. One day his boss had brought him one of our teaspoons (which we had sent to them for them to try doing the engraving) but he never got around to doing the engraving. When Adam decided to go out on his own, and into our area here, he engraved the spoon and brought it to us as an advertisement of his work. From that day on he has engraved our York pieces. He does, in fact, all our hand engraving and does a wonderful job.
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asheland

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iconnumber posted 09-28-2014 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for asheland     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for that reply! That is very interesting. I noticed it was done very well indeed, I figured it was by hand, but not sure. I always enjoy reading your posts!
Thanks Geoff!

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middletom

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iconnumber posted 12-30-2014 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for middletom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I had written the earlier explanation about the York pattern, I was a bit confused about the name of the engraving company. It was Lambert engraving. The Goodnough I had added after actually belonged to the company which made cutlery blades, Lampson and Goodnough. I hope that clears things up for you, and for me, too.

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asheland

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iconnumber posted 01-01-2015 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for asheland     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Geoff!

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