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asheland

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iconnumber posted 11-21-2016 11:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for asheland     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just got this piece. (I wish it was Benney) but it's a terrific quality piece and of the correct period.
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agleopar

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iconnumber posted 11-22-2016 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for agleopar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ashland, I started smithing 5 years after this was made and "bark" texture was rampant in early 70's London silver. Any exhibition at Goldsmiths Hall or elsewhere, Benney, Devlin, Elson, as well as the city firms all used it. It's funny to me that I did not like it and rebelled or more correctly just went the route of my master with the old style arts and craft or Scandanvian hammered style. Now I look back at it fondly but am glad it's "out of fashion"!

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asheland

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iconnumber posted 11-23-2016 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for asheland     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It certainly has the look of the 60's and 70's (at least to me) I wasn't too fond of it early on, but have grown to really like it lately.

Can you tell me how it's done? You're the perfect person to ask! smile

I read with Benney that it was actually hammered in that way with a special hammer, but I would swear this was done with a file or perhaps was engraved in?

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ahwt

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iconnumber posted 11-23-2016 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It seems to me to mimic crepe paper in its look and that quite a bit of metal must be moved around in the process of making this design.
Interesting piece.

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agleopar

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iconnumber posted 11-23-2016 11:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for agleopar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Textures, or how to get them on silver are an endless subject with silversmiths. Mainly chasing punches and hammers are used to indent, where as gravers, files and the like remove metal. If the surface feels rough and sharp it might be from the later and softer less sharp the former. But a sharply textured hammer or the right "matting" (chasing) punch can have a sharp feel. Obviously this is all when the object is new. Polishing will soften all texture over time.

The fastest way is with a hammer, next a file, chasing punch and then last a graver. Although each can, in the right hand be fast, or slow...

With out seeing this I'm guessing it was hammered. The trick is to do the same strike to each and keep the hammering in line. The art comes in finishing where the polished edge meets the texture. There must be tricks to make this happen but I'd have to experiment with a few different ways to get it this clean, since I do not use texture like this!

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asheland

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iconnumber posted 11-24-2016 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for asheland     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since starting this thread, I found a video on youtube about Benney. Sure enough, they used a hammer and even showed it in the video. I'm guessing you are right and it is a hammer after all.

On this particular piece, the edges that are plain are from shaving away the silver, likely on a lathe.

The video is recommended! It's a BBC video called Handmade: By Royal Appointment House of Benney

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agleopar

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iconnumber posted 11-26-2016 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for agleopar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ashland that video was great, it took me back to London, 1972-7, Clerkenwell, Hatton Garden, workshops where you could get anything done. I still have friends working in small workshops but all the big firms are gone. Goldsmiths Hall is still a force, Rosemary Ransome-Wallis too! I have never met her but what she does not know about the history would fit in a tea spoon.
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asheland

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iconnumber posted 11-27-2016 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for asheland     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Glad to share. smile I appreciate it being made into a link! Great video!

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