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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 03-05-2000 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought someone might find the following correspondence interesting and hopefully someone may be able contribute some additional information which will help determine the disposition of the mace.

Richard Wilson wrote:

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I have been assigned the task of finding the temporary mace of the U.S. House of Representatives. I came to this site because I have had no luck in the last 5 years complete dead ends, this is why I am here.

In August of 1841 the speaker of the house commissioned a silversmith from new York city by the name of William Adams to construct this new mace. I have been trying to locate anyone who knows anything about the original silversmith and or can refer me to perhaps any living descendants of MR. ADAMS. Any guidance, names relatives, anything that might help me locate his family members or any info to help me in my search would be greatly appreciated.
Richard Wilson
Thanks..its appreciated.


Scott Martin wrote:

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Here are two New York silversmiths circa 1850; name: William Adams.

Adams, William
1829, 687 Washington;
1830, 620 Greenwich;
not listed 1831;
1832-1833, 134 Church;
1834, 179 Church;
1835, 103 Elm;
1836-1837, 113 Elm;
1838-1844/1845, 185 Church;
1846/1847-1848/1849, 198 Chatham. Silversmith. President of Board of Aldermen, New York
City, 1842-1843.
Working until 1850.

Adams, William B.
1844/1845-1849/1850, 358 Bowery. Watchmaker and jeweler.

Here are additional Adams listed as NY silversmiths:

Adams, Alexander
1820, 136 Broadway;
not listed 1821;
1822, 177 Broadway. Watchmaker.
1823-1825, 661/2 Hudson. Watchmaker and jeweler.
Listed 1827-1829 and 1833, various addresses with no occupation given.

Adams, Nathan
1811, 141 Cherry. Watchmaker.

Adams, Thomas
MACKAY: New York, 1776.
Halifax, Nova Scotia, 1776;
Shelburne, Nova Scotia, 1784-1787;
Halifax, Nova Scotia, 1794-1799. Silversmith and watchmaker.

Please let me know if this is of assistance.


Richard Wilson wrote:

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Scott,

This is a quest taken on by me. Unofficially the powers that be are encouraging me to find the old mace. This is so bizarre to me that an item of such historical value was lost and no one has questioned its where abouts until I asked about it five years ago.

I have read through our own historical documents from the ceremony in 1847, celebrating the installation of the new mace and there is no mention of what happened to the old one. I started with trying to contact all the families of the officers at the time, sergeant at arms, speaker, etc. but with no luck. I don't want to bore you with a lot of this, but I do want to thank you for taking the time to help.

The original silversmith was living and working at 185 Church St New York according to
the documents. So the first one on your list is the guy I want, now all I have to do is locate some of his descendants. Perhaps there is something they know that was passed own by word of mouth that might lead me in the right direction.

My thought here was that maybe they gave him the old mace to use as a guideline in designing the new one or perhaps made it a gift to him when the new one was completed. Of course maybe not and I am back at square one. I don't give up easy and I am determined to find it.

Thanks for the quick and helpful response...


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Brent

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iconnumber posted 03-05-2000 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This sounds like a job for Don Soeffing. He wrote up a nice section on Shaw for Venable's Silver in America, and he may well be sitting on some additional findings. If anyone has information on Shaw, it is probably him.

Where the mace is now is hard to guess. It would be helpful to have a description of some kind. If it does still exist, it may be in a museum where it simply doesn't attract much attention, or it may be somewhere where no one knows what it is.

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 03-07-2000 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have received several e-mails asking what a mace is .......

A mace is a heavy staff which was derived from the medieval knight's weapon of the same name. The knight's mace was used for breaking an opponents armor. Over the course of time, the mace evolved into a decorative symbol of authority or dignity by some public bodies and officials.

Examples of early ceremonial maces date from the mid 13th century. Pictured below is the Great Mace of Dublin, Ireland made for the City's first Lord Mayor, Sir Daniel Belingham circa 1665.

From the US National Archives:

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What is the mace of the House of Representatives and what purpose does it serve?

The mace consists of thirteen ebony rods, about three feet long, representing the thirteen original States. It is bound together with silver in imitation of the thongs which bound the fasces of ancient Rome. The shaft is surmounted by a globe of solid silver about five inches in diameter upon which rests a massive silver eagle. The mace is the symbol of the paramount authority of the House within its own sphere. In times of riot or disorder upon the floor the Speaker may direct the Sergeant-at-Arms, the executive officer of the House, to bear the mace up and down the aisles as a reminder that the dignity and decorum of the House must not be overthrown. Defiance to such warning is the ultimate disrespect to the House and may lead to expulsion. When the House is sitting as a body, the mace rests upright on a pedestal at the right of the Speaker's dais; when the House is sitting in committee of the whole, the mace stands upon the floor at the foot of its pedestal. Thus, when the House wishes to "rise" from committee of the whole and resume business as legislative body, lifting the mace to its pedestal automatically effects the transition. The origin of the idea of the mace is based upon a similar emblem in the British House of Commons.


From the Rules of the US House of Representatives:

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Sergeant-at-Arms

3. (a) The Sergeant-at-Arms shall attend the House during its sittings and maintain order under the direction of the Speaker or other presiding officer. The Sergeant-at-Arms shall execute the commands of the House, and all processes issued by authority thereof, directed to him by the Speaker.
(b) The symbol of the office of the Sergeant-at-Arms shall be the mace, which shall be borne by him while enforcing order on the floor.


Maces can be usually be classified into following categories:


  • Sergeants' maces. The symbol of authority and order used by Sergeant-at-Arms & local law enforcement authorities;
  • Civic maces. The symbol of mayoral authority and local government.
  • Institutional maces. Used by universities, colleges, faculties and courts.
  • Great Maces. Such as the maces of the English House of Commons, the English House of Lords, the US House of Representatives.

In the US, possibly the oldest mace is the one used by the Maryland House of Delegates and it is still in use.

Cecil Calvert, Second Lord Baltimore, to whom the charter was granted in 1632, commissioned a medal by a famous engraver to mark the successful beginnings at St. Mary's City in 1634. It bore his image on one side and a map of Maryland on the other which was inscribed, in Latin, "As the Sun Thou Shalt Enlighten America."

The mace is a single wooden rod, 24 ˝" long and 1 3/4" in diameter. Made of ebony, or possibly oak, stained to look like ebony. It is capped with silver on which is engraved the 1794 Great Seal, designed by Charles Willson Peale, a native Marylander and one of the foremost artists of his day. The motto, Industry the Means, Plenty the Result was the official state
motto from 1794 until 1817.

The mace is such a strong symbol of authority in Maryland that for the states Constitutional Convention of 1967 a special ceremonial mace was created. The mace of the convention was made by Samuel Kirk & Son and incorporates the Great Seal of Maryland cast in silver from reproductions of the original State seal of 1648. The seal is supported by a circle of silver inscribed "State of Maryland, Constitutional Convention of 1967". The handle and supporting base are made of walnut.

Norfolk, Virginia has a sterling silver mace and it is considered one of their most treasured symbols. The mace was presented to the Borough of Norfolk in 1754 by the Lieutenant Governor of Virginia, Robert Dinnwiddie. The silver staff is 41 inches long, weighs more than six pounds and bears the initials of its maker, London silversmith Fuller White. During the Civil War, in 1862, the mace was hidden under the mayor's hearth. The mace did not reappear until 1894 when it was found "in bad shape, " according to one account, in the police station. The mace was carefully restored and is now on public display in the Chrysler Museum of Art.

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bascall

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It looks like there's something basic that I do not understand about this posting. Unless history has been revised the Adams mace is in its place and apparently has been since it was made. Here's a link that talks about the mace: The Rostrum and U.S. Flag

It seems more likely that Mr Wilson was assigned to find whatever device it was that was used in place of the mace until Adam's mace was complete?

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Thanks for the refresher on this one Bascall.
Apparently the enquirer is looking for the WOODEN interim mace, which "filled in" between the loss by fire of the original, and its replacement by the 1841 Adams mace.
Quite possibly the wooden one, having no commercial (eg. precious metal) value, and having been seen as a "stand in", was not thought worth keeping.

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My pleasure adelapt. Definitely an interesting subject.

In 1831 William Adams was a silversmith at Leroy and Greenwich Street. In 1840 William Adams who was then known as "boss Adams" was a silversmith on White Street. He is said to have been a New York City Alderman, and the years 1841 or 1842 and 1843 are given for his presidency of the board of aldermen.

In the 1850 U S Federal Census William Adams who was born in New York in about 1801 has three young silversmiths listed in his household, John Slifer, David Decker, and George Waterbury. There is a William Adams in the 1860 census who was born in New York in about *1804 and was a silversmith with a personal estate value of $60,000.00 which would fit.

"The Magazine Antiques" July 1975 issue has the mace on its cover and hopefully a good article about the mace and William Adams within.

*The years of birth in the census's is one of the vaguest pieces of information given. The deputy marshalls who originally took the census's and even later the professional enumerators just seem to have a tough time calculating year of birth from present age as do I. And then add that to the quality of information given by the informant or person answering the census taker's questions, and it's anybodys guess.

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