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iconnumber posted 09-13-2000 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would appreciate any information on the partnership of 'BARRET & OREAR.' The mark is incuse in a plain rectangle; the typeface is quite crude and nearly sans serif. It is on a sustantial placespoon with a narrow down-turned fiddleback handle, a wide, short pointed shoulder without champher, and full oval bowl. The handle is quite thick and high arched. The monogram is plain script, perpendicular to the handle, and rather crude. Befoe you ask, I have attempted a few scans of the mark, but because of the arch they have proved less than useless and I will have to go without a few more lunches before I can get that Sony digital.

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iconnumber posted 09-19-2000 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Check out Boultinghouse's Siversmiths of Kentucky. He lists a Robert Barret(t) and an Enoch O'Rear working separately in Kentucky pre-1820. Barrett died in 1821, so he may not fit. On the other hand, it is unknown who taught O'Rear the trade, and he was working in Kentucky 1815-1817. Perhaps Barrett taught O'Rear.

On the other hand, O'Rear moved to Boone County, MO in 1825, and made/marked silver under the partnership of O'Rear and Barton. Perhaps Barret & O'Rear was another Missouri partnership.

Regardless, I would be surprised if the O'Rear in your mark isn't this same Enoch O'Rear. It is such an odd name!

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iconnumber posted 09-19-2000 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Excellent, sir; many thanks. I had looked at the Barret entry there, but had missed the O'Rear. The spoon struck me as southern in origin, but I did not want to sour the stew, so had not mentioned it. It is very similar to the two spoons shown in Boultinghouse. I wonder if the order of the names may indicate an early date in O'Rear's career -- perhaps just after his apprenticeship and before working alone in Flemingsburg?

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iconnumber posted 09-27-2000 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Check out Information Please in Silver Magazine Sept-Oct 1995. A person wrote in with two spoons from the same estate, one Asa Blanchard and one Barret & Orear. They were both finless fiddles and had identical monograms. He thought that Barret & Orear might have been working with Blanchard, which seems unlikely to me. I would suspect they were purchased separately, with one made to go with the other. He was searching for additional info., and gives an address where he could be reached. Might be up your alley!

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iconnumber posted 09-28-2000 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't have that issue, of course. I will see if anyone around here has one. I would tend to doubt the connection with Blanchard as well. He is so prominent a figure I think if there was any indication of a connection, O'Rear's descendant would have mentioned it to Boultinghouse. Much more likely that O'Rear copied a Blanchard pattern as you suggest.

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