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Paul Lemieux

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iconnumber posted 10-01-2000 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul Lemieux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When it comes to American coin silver, I pretty much only have a vague instinct of what is a good deal (though I'm sure I miss bargains too), but I am only able to recognize a few names without having to look them up (and my lack of coin silver books hampers this too). Perhaps somebody can help me with this:

Today at a flea market in Rowley, MA, in a wretched pile of common silverplated flatware, I found a 9-1/2" coin silver spoon for only $3.00 (incidentally a lot cheaper than any of the plated junk) marked "J. Sargeant" (the mark is a little worn so it may be Sargent) and "Hartford" both in separate rectangles. Can anyone give me the operating dates of Mr. Sargeant, or any add'l information?

And if anyone wants to recommend books on American coin silver I'd be grateful.

Thanks very much,
Paul

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iconnumber posted 10-01-2000 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where was that pile of spoons...?

Jacob Sargeant was born in Mansfield CT on 28 Feb 1761, the son of Samuel and Hannah (Baldwin) Sargeant. He married Olive Payne in 1785 and had 9 children. The first discovered notice of him is in The Connecticut Gazette and Universal Intelligencer (we have such puny papers these days) for 11 Jan 1784: "...shop in Mansfield makes clocks and watches, gold and silversmith work." He was advertising in the Hampshire Chronicle of Springfield by 1790. In 1795 he ran an ad in the same paper indicating a move to Hartford where "..He will carry on the gold and silversmithing business for which he has earned a deserved reputation." The same ad also noted that Thomas Sargeant (his brother) would carry on the Springfield business as usual. He died in Hartford on 12 Apr 1843, having enjoyed "a long and fruitful career" (Connecticut Courant). In addition to his fine silver work, he also left us another legacy in his apprentice, Nathan Storrs.

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Paul Lemieux

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iconnumber posted 10-02-2000 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul Lemieux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wev, was that information in a book? can you recommend a couple of good references on american coin silver?

if i see a flea market i always go, no matter how junky it appears from afar...there's always that chance that in a pile of junk there's some treasure waiting. this one was in rowley mass, and this guy had a bunch of tables and one card table had a pile of flatware. most if it was circa 1940s & 1950s silverplate.

actually, he had one other piece of real silver: a fiddle-shaped teaspoon i wanted to get, i believe it was foreign; it had an engraved heraldic eagle at the top; it was marked with a germanic name and a couple of hallmarks-- a capital "A" and another symbol, i think a bird. it had a rattail too. but he wouldn't sell it to me because the price tag had fallen off and he said he was "tending the booth for his silversmith friend, so he didn't know how much to charge." so he took it off the table and set it aside. even though i hate to see sticky tags stuck on silver, sitting in the hot sun all day long, i was pretty disappointed that there was no price on this one because it probably would have been cheap too.

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iconnumber posted 10-02-2000 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The information came from several books and my own notes. A few of the general survey basics would be:

Flynt & Fales, "The Heritage Foundation Collection of Silver." An excellent book on pre-1800 smiths with much original research. The maker's marks shown are not the best quality and the text is becoming dated, but nevertheless a core book that can still be had used for a reasonable price.

Belden, "Marks of American Silversmiths..." A beautifully produced survey of the makers in the Winterthur collection with concise information, excellent photos of the marks, and a good bibliography. The only drawback is its high price -- around $500 a copy now.

Buhler and Hood "American Silver : Gravan Collection et al at Yale University." A fine survey of early makers. Good solid scholarship. Again, very pricey.

Ensko, "American Silversmiths and Their Marks." Available from Dover Books; probably the handiest volume for carrying around the shops. Most of the information in the bio section is taken from Flynt & Fales; the mark section is now rather dated and should be used with some caution - many of the marks (drawn rather than photographed) are misleading and a number of the attributions have been disproven.

Kovel, "A Directory of American Silver..." Dates and attributions should be taken with a large grain of salt. It is a compilation of other books and little regard was given to verifying information. The only real value is the bibliography; it is best used as a starting place alone.

Wyler "The Book of Old Silver." A smallish section on American makers, quite dated, but still containing valuable information.

In addition there are many good books by region or state. At the top of the list would be:

Bohan and Hammerslough, "Early Connecticut Silver"
Boultinghouse, "Silversmiths of Kentucky"
Carlisle, "Vermont..."
and the various state surveys by Cutten (though his scholarship has proved dubious in some cases)

That should help wipe out the buying budget for the year. Flynt & Fales and Ensko would be a good start.

Better stickers in the sun than permanent marking pen!

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I was most remiss in leaving out "Early American Silver" by Martha Gandy Fales, an excellent overview of the silversmith's technical and artistic development in this country. Well written and illustrated, it should top the required reading list.

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For whatever it's worth and from the Historical catalogue of the First Church in Hartford, a Jacob Sargeant who died April 12, 1843 and Olive Sargeant who died 1831 were both members when the church was built which was called the Brick Meeting House. The building was completed in 1807.

A Jacob Sargeant Jr married Olive Payne in Mansfield County, Connecticut on 30 January 1785.

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