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treedtoo

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iconnumber posted 05-24-2001 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for treedtoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ihave two spoons I would like identified
The first a fiddle 6"lg- bowl11/4 wd shoulders rounded marked SQUIRE&LANDER with 3 marks -a 5 pointed star,a British lion and "D" in a rectangle with blunted corners
the second also afiddle 51/2"lg- bowl
11/16 wd shoulders sharp -overstruck J&W.L.WARD - the original mark seems to be
-------Warden Norm

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iconnumber posted 05-25-2001 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The first mark is for the partners Tobias Lander and Bela Squire working in New York as watchmakers, jewelers, and silversmiths c 1853-1870. The second is for Jehu and William L. Ward, jewelers and silversmiths working in Philadelphia c 1837-1852. I can only guess at the under mark; there was an Abijah Warden working in Philly in the early 1840s that is a possibility, but the 'Norm' is a puzzle.

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iconnumber posted 05-25-2001 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for treedtoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
many thanks for the prompt answer and the information - it is the dates i am especially interested in - I am trying to establish original ownership and the dates eliminate certain possibilities - the NORM is not part of the makers name - it was supposed to be my signature.I have since acquired still another spoon - a fiddleback serving spoon incused FENNO&HALE and in another place BANGOR. CCan you date this for me too? again may thanks for your help!!
NORM

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iconnumber posted 05-25-2001 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My pleasure. It did occur to me that you might be Norm, but only after I had posted.

Fenno (Jeremiah) and Hale (Charles) are listed in directories as working in Bangor, Maine c 1848-1859. They were listed in the Maine Register for 1856 as watchmakers, jewelers, spoon, and spectacle manufacturers.

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iconnumber posted 06-19-2001 02:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Trefid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Treedtoo mentioned a 3-mark trademark in the first post. This sounds like the mark of John L. Westervelt of Newburgh, NY. I imagine that Westervelt made the spoon and Squire and Lander retailed it.

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