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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 01-04-2002 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There has been a lot of speculation about the marks of James Watts and/or James Watts' relationship to/with other silversmiths. (See prior posts: maker query - horsehead & Another unknown manufacturer. June and I have never really been certain about the horsehead/chevron (and variations). We haven't seen any solid documentation to support or contradict the horsehead/chevron (and variations) attribution but we do understand the supposition. Here is a mark combination we hadn't seen before. What do you think?

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iconnumber posted 11-12-2006 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
McGrew suspects the Arrow W Chevron is the second mark of James Watts. See page 62 in McGrew.

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iconnumber posted 11-13-2006 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here are two Watts related pieces.

The first has the James Watts as well as the horse head, chervon mark and the George Sharp mark lion S lion.


The second is an overstrike. I suppose the overstrike says McLeen ??? You can still see some of the letters that were stamped over but I am not really sure about either. Then there is the arrow W chevron. Some say the chevron looks more like a shield. I use chevron only because the horse head chevron is related to prior Watts discussion. McGrew calls it a shield. To me it looks like a shield and not a chevron.

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iconnumber posted 11-13-2006 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's H. McKEEN for Henry McKeen, working as a jeweler c 1823-1850 in Philadelphia.

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iconnumber posted 11-13-2006 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was pretty sure you would know. Thanks wev.

Anyone want to hazard a guess about what ws over struck? To me it looks like it might start with L. LA .......

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iconnumber posted 11-13-2006 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swarter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
L.LA (if that is what it is) could be Lewis Ladomus (Philadelphiia, w. 1846-78)

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iconnumber posted 11-13-2006 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is what I read.

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