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Fitzhugh

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iconnumber posted 02-15-2002 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fitzhugh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

A dealer friend just e-mailed me to see if I knew the incised/intaglio mark "J P ALLEN", supposedly of Kentucky origin. I checked my notes, and found nothing to indicate this was a Ky. smith. Does anyone have record of who this was? "P" wasn't the middle initial of James Allen of Charleston, SC, was it??

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iconnumber posted 02-16-2002 09:56 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello there. John A. Allen is in Polk's directory as a jeweler, 1876/7. The South Carolina smith is spelled Allan (James Allan & Co., jewelers), no initial given. Boultinghouse & Burton are the references respectively. I have a list of southern smiths culled from Magazine Antiques & there is no listing for a J.P. Allen there.

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Fitzhugh

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iconnumber posted 02-17-2002 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fitzhugh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are very correct regarding my spelling on Allan of Charleston. Thanks for the look up for J P Allen. He may remain a mystery.

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iconnumber posted 05-22-2008 06:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bascall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is an old post. The presumptive owner of this mark is a jeweler named John P Allen of Dawson, Terrell County, Georgia who was born in 1831 in Georgia. John is found working as a jeweler in the 1870 and 1880 U S Federal Census's.

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avalata

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iconnumber posted 10-26-2018 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for avalata     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There was also a John P. Allen, jeweler, working in Springfield, Ohio around the 1860s - he was related to a Benjamin Allen, another jeweler. This does not seem to be the same man as the Georgia jeweler Capt. John P. Allen. I have a spoon marked incuse J.P.ALLEN that is in a typical Cincinnati style, which I can provide pictures of.

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 10-26-2018 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
love to see the photos

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avalata

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