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iconnumber posted 08-04-2002 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I ran across this poor pair of Marquand serving spoons online. To my eye, the wear on the handles and the absence of same on the gilded bowls, indicate they were re-made at some later time. The mark is MARQUAND & CO., incised, which would date to c 1820-1833. I know this practice was fairly common in England (to the great distress of modern collectors!), but how common here? I would have thought enough of this sort of thing was being made new to preclude messing about with old wares.



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iconnumber posted 08-05-2002 10:58 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello to all! I have a pair of serving spoons by Edward Lownes of Philadeplphia (d. 1834) that were made into berry spoons at some point. It really is a shame as they are of the King's pattern, the handles very heavy and well made, but the bowl was of necessity thinned when the work was done, not terribly, but they are no longer well balanced. Unfortunately I am still photographically challenged and so cannot post a picture.

I suppose we could be charitable and consider this a form of making do, or doing without.

Nah. It really is a shame.

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Paul Lemieux

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iconnumber posted 08-05-2002 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul Lemieux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not coin silver, but the same idea...In a box lot of flatware I got there was a Wood & Hughes Angelo pattern (1878) serving spoon made into one of these berry spoons. The back bore an inscription of 1947, which was presumably when the bowl was messed with. The whole thing had also been fairly heavily buffed. I listed it on eBay for 15.00 to get rid of it. Surprisingly, two Angelo collectors bid it up to 97.00...

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iconnumber posted 10-10-2002 02:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Trefid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd like to stick up for the opposite view. I collect "later decorated" flatware, mostly English, but I've a few American ones as well. Admittedly, sometimes the balance and/or other nice features of a piece are marred by the later decoration, but I believe that some pieces are enhanced. However either side feels, we cannot turn back time and undecorate the spoons, and the practice has long since stopped. And as the "pristine" collectors won't have anything to do with these pieces, a spoon can usually be had a bit more cheaply than the same piece undecorated. Although to see the prices for them asked on eBay, perhaps that last statement is no longer true.

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