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Jackcheetham53 unregistered |
posted 12-13-2002 11:59 AM
 
I think I have some old spoons and I think they are silver, although they lack any hallmarks. The names on the back of the fiddleback spoons are A. Miller and Miller & Voute, and on other small spoons, J. Shoemaker. I tried American silversmith's names and British names but found nothing, I thought maybe German. Any ideas? Thanks, IP: Logged |
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Brent Posts: 1507 |
posted 12-13-2002 12:31 PM
Hello, Your pieces are all American coin silver, likely all from the Philadelphia area. J. Shoemaker is the fairly well documented Joseph Shoemaker of Philadelphia, working ca. 1793-1829. As for Miller, there is an A. Miller mark recorded, but the location is unknown. There are several other listed Millers, some from Philadelphia. There is a Louis C. Voute recorded as working in Bridgeton, NJ (not far from Philly) and later Philadelphia, from 1826-1850. We can assume that one of the Philadelphia Millers formed a partnership with Mr. Voute at some point. I hope this helps! Brent IP: Logged |
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Jackcheetham53 unregistered |
posted 12-13-2002 01:33 PM
Thank you so much! I just gave a nitric acid test to a broken piece and it was positive for approx. 90% so that puts it together nicely. Just for curiosity, since I have no forks or knives, could it be that these folks just made spoons? Thanks again for your help, IP: Logged |
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wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 12-13-2002 01:49 PM
It's entirely possible they made forks, though even in the 1830s their use was still uncommon. Knives, until the 1850s, were generally made by cutlers, rather than silversmiths, steel blades being prefered to silver. Some makers did do knives (often fashioning the grips and buying out the blades), but as with forks, not commonly. I know of only a handful of "complete" flatware setting from before the advent of sterling and the large manufacturing firms who invented many of the 'nessesary' bits to increase sales. IP: Logged |
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bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 12-13-2008 08:27 AM
There is an Andrew Miller silverplater at 6 Chapel in the 1829-30 Manhattan City Directory? IP: Logged |
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bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 07-28-2011 01:55 PM
Another A Miller is Alva Miller who was born in Vermont in about 1852 and is listed as a jeweler in Craftsbury circa 1880. [This message has been edited by bascall (edited 07-28-2011).] IP: Logged |
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bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 10-02-2011 05:38 PM
Looking around again for something about A Miller and Miller & Voute, I think I've finally landed on something a little more precise. I have found more than one mention of Miller & Voute watchmakers in Easton, Pennsylvania in the 1830's. I think they were Abraham Miller and the Louis C Voute that Brent mentions. Abraham Miller was a long time resident of Easton, and there is mention of Louis C Voute marrying in Easton in 1832. IP: Logged |
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