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Fitzhugh

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iconnumber posted 12-30-2002 08:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fitzhugh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can anyone identify the maker's mark on a decanter I just picked up? It appears to be a French piece by "VB," but it may well be American, as it looked more like an Am. marking. It's marked vertically with a crescent moon, a star, VB, and another star. Thanks for any help you can provide!

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iconnumber posted 12-30-2002 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you post a picture of the piece and mark? Send them along to me for posting if you'd like.

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iconnumber posted 01-27-2003 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sent along from Fitzhugh:

I would think it is a French/French Canadian mark, but I have no maker to suggest.

Thoughts, anyone?

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labarbedor

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iconnumber posted 01-28-2003 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for labarbedor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I doubt it is French. It has a lozenge shaped cartouche, but does not follow a number of conventions for French marks. The test would be very simple. A French mark would be very small and invariably accompanied by a garantee mark, this mark can be extremely small and difficult to find. Also every separate piece of metal will have a mark. A picture of the piece and mark might help.

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Fitzhugh

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iconnumber posted 01-29-2003 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fitzhugh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, each separate piece has a mark, and there is an accompanying "Minerva" head mark as well which appears to be in a pent/hexagonal cartouche (Paris 1838 registry?) I really can't tell.

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labarbedor

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iconnumber posted 01-29-2003 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for labarbedor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The minerva mark which introduced in 1838 but was used unchanged until the 1970's. Often you will see a piece identified as 1838 which of course is inaccurate for the most part.
When I said the maker's mark didn't follow certain conventions I should have said certain conventions for antique Paris maker's marks. The piece could be either provincial or relatively modern Parisien. I couldn't find it in Lyon, or Paris books before 1875. Except for a few well known maker's the value of most French silver is not affected by the maker's mark.

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