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Paul Lemieux Posts: 1792 |
posted 04-22-2003 11:25 PM
  
Here is a very interesting pair of coin silver cuff links. They are American and I believe they date to about 1770 (the style of decoration, typeface, and shape of the cuff links are all clues). They feature the phrase "Liberty & Peace" written in reverse so it is legible when the links are held to a mirror. I would guess that "Liberty & Peace" might have been the slogan of some kind of political organization, perhaps a secret one, of which members owned such cuff links and only other members knew the significance of them. Does anybody have more ideas about these cuff links? And the mirror image... IP: Logged |
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Kimo Posts: 1627 |
posted 04-23-2003 09:27 PM
Do you have a photo of the reverses to show the backs and construction of the link parts? Do the patinas and general feel of them say 18th century as opposed to reproductions of the 19th or 20th centuries? Cufflinks didn't really come into fashion until the Victorian period, though there seems to be some evidence of different kinds of cuff fasteners or cufflinks being used in the 18th century. For example, I have some nice hand made, hand hammered, hand engraved octagonal cufflinks that were made in Williamsburg with antique tools by a skilled silversmith who was replicating 18th century style silver work but they are only 10 years old. IP: Logged |
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labarbedor Posts: 353 |
posted 04-23-2003 10:16 PM
I am not sure where you got your statement about 18th century cuff links. There are quite a few known in various collections, in Fales' "American silver etc" there is an octagonal pair c. 1760. I have several unmarked pairs, which I am reasonably certain are 18th century, although unfortuneately unmarked. Cuffs were fastened by the same type of buttons as the rest of the shirt but often the links wore out. I wouldn't be suprised if there aren't some 17th century ones out there. Maurice IP: Logged |
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Paul Lemieux Posts: 1792 |
posted 04-24-2003 12:03 AM
I'm certain these are 18th century. They have appropriate patina and wear, and there's nothing about them that suggests a later reproduction.
quote: Indeed, the connector links on this pair are almost (about 2/3) worn through, supporting the 18th century thesis. Dimensions: each octagon is 1/2" across, and the connector links are about 9/16" long. Maurice, would you be willing to post images of some of your 18th century cuff links if you get a chance? IP: Logged |
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FredZ Posts: 1070 |
posted 04-24-2003 08:29 AM
Paul, The cufflinks would most likely have been made like most buttons of the time. An image of the back would be most helpful. Can you tell if the borders on each of the "buttons" is identical. This would be an indication that a swage was used to stamp them. Many of the buttons were engraved. These do not appear to be engraved. The letters are stand out from the background. Carving each of the buttons individually would create letters with discernable shape diffences. Are they hollow construction? I doubt if these are cast. I wish I could see and touch them. So much to learn.... Fred IP: Logged |
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Melissa unregistered |
posted 05-06-2003 10:12 AM
Hello, this is one heck of a long shot, but the Massachusetts state motto is "By the sword we seek Peace, but Peace only under Liberty". Perhaps a political secret society from that area used Liberty & Peace as their creedo. IP: Logged |
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Paul Lemieux Posts: 1792 |
posted 04-14-2008 08:33 PM
Since so many new members have joined in the 5 years since I posted about these cufflinks, I am just bumping this post to see if anybody else might have additional thoughts about them. IP: Logged |
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jersey Posts: 1203 |
posted 04-14-2008 09:12 PM
Paul! A thought! Are there any makers marks? I found this tooling around........ "For Liberty and Peace Massachusetts does not shed from shedding her own blood, and from spilling that of her enemies. Her motto, that you will carry into battle on this flag, expresses her creed...She seeks for liberty and peace, and will secure them with the sword. Yes with the sword, the rifle, or the cannon. She bids you fight. Fight in the name of your dead and for your captives... Take, then, this flag. Stand by it in the evil day. Bring it back when the sword has done its work, and let the stains of smoke and blood upon it..tell us the story of your deeds." Is this any help? Jersey IP: Logged |
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