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iconnumber posted 04-24-2003 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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This is a fairly large scale pitcher -- 12" tall and weighing 31 ounces, that a friend asked help in identifying. The reposse appears hand done and the base is well cast and chased. The mark was difficult to shoot, but reads A. KNAPP; there are no other marks. I am assuming it is silverplate to start, but it is possible, given the incised mark, that it may in fact be coin. There were a few makers named Knapp: William c 1760 in Annapolis and Philip c 1840 in Philadelphia, but I've found no A's. Has anyone an idea?

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I'm wondering if it might be "Continental".

Were grape motifs popular before the 20th century?

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iconnumber posted 04-24-2003 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A continental origin is entirely possible.
Grape motifs were used on American holloware from the early 18th century, though not as fervently as in the late 19th/early 20th.

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Alanson Knapp from Mobile used the mark A. Knapp. Alanson Knapp was born in Connecticut, but was in Mobile as early as 1826 when he went in partnership with silversmith Edward Dunning. He later worked alone and also in partnership with watchmaker Albert J. Leslie. You have a lovely, c 1850, coin silver pitcher similar to the ones pictured on page 293 of "Made in Alabama: A State Legacy". In this case the title "Made in Alabama" can be misleading as most of the silver sold in Alabama was actually make in the east.

You may want to post this in the coin silver section to get more comments.

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iconnumber posted 04-25-2003 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stephen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll ask Scott to move it.

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iconnumber posted 04-25-2003 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That you for the information. I am trying to trace Alanson's line back, but unfortunately there are at least 4 named such, all born in Connecticut at nearly the same time. I read in a Silver Mag extract that his dates were 1797-1895, but I don't know how accurate that may be -- he is not listed in the 1880 census.

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iconnumber posted 04-26-2003 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Made in Alabama book provides 1797-1875 as the birth and death dates for Knapp and his partnership with Dunning beginning in 1826. The James Cormany and the Sidney Adair Smith materials on Alabama/Mobile silver do not add any information on Knapp's Connecticut life.

The basis for saying that Knapp was born in Connecticut is not referenced in the Made in Alabama book. Perhaps the authors would be willing to share that information with you. This book was published by the Birmingham Museum of Art, 2000 Eighth Avenue North, Birmingham, AL 35203.

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Thanks for the date correction; I will query the museum and see if they have any additional information. The Knapp name is found in Dabury CT records as early as 1695, with at least a dozen family lines originating there.

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iconnumber posted 04-28-2003 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HISTORY OF GOVERNMENT STREET PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH
If it is of any help, the above web site shows Alanson Knapp as Charter member of the Government Street Presbyterian Church in Mobile

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