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Melissa unregistered |
posted 11-09-2003 10:52 AM
 
Hello all. Does anyone have information on a smith working circa 1815 by the name of J.S. Ogden? Thanks, Melissa IP: Logged |
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swarter Moderator Posts: 2920 |
posted 11-09-2003 10:42 PM
This name does not appear in the usual sources. Is it from a mark on a silver object, or does it come from another source? If on an object, are there other marks? A picture or description of both the object and the mark(s) might help verify the date and determine the place of origin. IP: Logged |
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Melissa unregistered |
posted 11-10-2003 10:01 AM
Hello yes, I have a pair of spoons just over 5-1/2" long marked J.S.Ogden in shaped cartouche. Long drop fiddle style with an incised 'V' on the heel, no shoulders and a period monogram. Every time I decide to sell them because I cannot find a record of a maker, I change my mind because they are so beautifully made. I cannot think why this is an anonymous maker. No photo as I am technologically challenged. IP: Logged |
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swarter Moderator Posts: 2920 |
posted 11-10-2003 01:33 PM
Based on your description, your spoons are most certainly from the first quarter of the 19th Century, possibly as early as 1805 - 10. In my experience, "finless fiddles" with incised drops (either V or pointed-arch) occur most frequntly (although not exclusively) from New York and Connecticut. Unfortunately, I have come up empty on the mark. Possibly he was a retailer - the familiar incised retailer marks came into common useage somewhat later. There were clockmakers (a trade often associated with silversmithing) with the Ogden name in Pennsylvania and New Jersey, but not enough information to make a connection. IP: Logged |
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wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 11-10-2003 05:53 PM
I agree with Swarter's comments and also find little in my files. Darling (New York State Silversmiths) records a Jonathan Ogden working 1795-1803 in New York City, which might be a possiblity. IP: Logged |
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swarter Moderator Posts: 2920 |
posted 11-10-2003 08:11 PM
Jonathan Ogden is a very good possibility as the maker or a relative, as the time and place are right, and the trades tended to run in families - somehow or other I managed to overlook him - thanks wev. IP: Logged |
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Melissa unregistered |
posted 11-12-2003 09:40 AM
Thanks for the information, it is enough to justify keeping the spoons. I agree that they are a bit earlier than I first described although I wouldn't think much earlier than 1810. Regardless, they go in the keeper box. Again, thank you! IP: Logged |
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