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wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 12-23-2003 08:14 PM
  
One of the secondary delights in my research into American silversmiths is the rich invention when it came to names in the 18th and 19th century. A few favorites, all makers: Eurotas Parmalee Hastings IP: Logged |
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bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 06-04-2008 05:31 AM
Celadon's father Timothy was the second son of Rev Timothy and Mary (Cleves) Symmes. He resided in Sussex County, New Jersey during the greater part of his life. He owned a farm but lived mainly by his trade which was that of a silversmith. This is from an 1873 book entitled "The Symmes Memorial" by John Vinton Adams who a was member for life of the New England Genealogical Society, corresponding member of the Maine Historical Society, of the Buffalo Historical Society, and of the State Historical Society of Wisconsin. [This message has been edited by bascall (edited 06-04-2008).] IP: Logged |
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wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 06-04-2008 12:05 PM
Please bear in mind that many, if not most of these family histories from the 19th and early 20th century contain a large portion of fantasy mixed in with the facts. They seldom allowed reality to stand in the way of romantic speculation. Reviving such notions without review or research only serves to muddy the waters and we already have an ocean full thanks to the Kovels. Aside from this single unsubstantiated claim, there is no indication that Timothy Symmes was ever engaged in silver work. He was a prosperous farmer and served various terms as judge of Sussex County NY, before joining his brother and fellow judge, John, in Ohio. The evidence for his son, Celedon's trade is only a shade better -- a spoon mold, supposedly his, given to the Cincinnati Historical Society by a descendant. I would be very interested to hear of anything more substantial that documents his career. IP: Logged |
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bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 06-04-2008 01:02 PM
Your point will be kept in mind. As a rule even authors of genealogical works do point out family myths, but there is no question that these stories do get blown out of proportion and may be riddled with errors. Histories written one hundred years or so after the fact are bound to be difficult. On the plus side for nineteenth century historians, there may at times still be people with first hand knowledge of some of the information that gets recorded. Vinton mentions Daniel Symmes brother William also being trained by his father and becoming a silversmith for a time. It's just a point of discussion and maybe at times there is other information to corroborate such statements. Vinton traces his own family to Braintree, Massachusetts and Josiah Vinton a silversmith who married Anne Adams of the Quincy Adamses. Also only mentioned for discussion sake. [This message has been edited by bascall (edited 06-04-2008).] IP: Logged |
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bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 09-28-2009 02:02 AM
quote: The first name here is Adna which is fairly common (or Adney in the familiar) in the census's and directories. [This message has been edited by bascall (edited 09-28-2009).] IP: Logged |
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swarter Moderator Posts: 2920 |
posted 09-28-2009 12:50 PM
If Bartlett Bramhill is the son of Sylvanus Bramhall, where does Sylvania Bramhill fit in? Daughter of Bartlett or a misspelling? IP: Logged |
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wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 09-28-2009 07:43 PM
Just a moment of errant typing and a dim bulb for a brain -- Sylvanus, not Sylvania IP: Logged |
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swarter Moderator Posts: 2920 |
posted 09-28-2009 10:12 PM
. . . and Bramhall, not Bramhill? IP: Logged |
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wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 09-28-2009 11:58 PM
Yes, Bramhall, not Bramhill. The flickering bulb continues its half-lit way six years on, drawing gnats and night moths, but illuminating little. IP: Logged |
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bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 09-29-2009 12:19 AM
Adna F Brockway WATCHMAKER S CALIPERS US Pat. 520558 - Filed Dec 12, 1892 IP: Logged |
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bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 09-29-2009 10:36 AM
Lysander had a brother named Samuel who had a jewelry store in German Flatts (Mohawk), but none named Stephen. Oh yes, their father's name was Luman not Lyman. Don't tell me there's a light bulb connection or misconnection here too. [This message has been edited by bascall (edited 09-29-2009).] IP: Logged |
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bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 10-01-2009 07:15 AM
Another Canfield Bro & Co partner, Joseph H Meredith, appears in an advertisement in The Book of the Great Railroad Celebrations of 1857, William Prescott Smith, New York, 1858, page 36. IP: Logged |
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bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 10-02-2009 12:05 AM
Speaking of names, Fitch Welch Burwell had a brother named Welch Fitch Burwell. Both men made their way to Virginia, married Virginia women and went back to Connecticut. Fitch of course had been in the Norfolk area and Welch Mount Pleasant which is now part of West Virginia. In 1870 the pair was in New Haven,Connecticut. Each in his own household as was an eighty-five year old Benedict Burwell without Dolly but with a daughter named Carolyn. There was also an eighty-two year Huldah Welch in Benedict's household at this time. Clearly, Fitch and Welch's father did not die in 1863. More likely their mother did though, and Benedict was the one who died in 1874. [This message has been edited by bascall (edited 10-02-2009).] IP: Logged |
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bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 10-03-2009 12:34 AM
In the book Harbor & Home: Furniture of Southeastern Massachusetts, 1710-1850 By Brock Jobe, Jack O'Brien, Gary R. Sullivan there is mention of Reuben Tower having a business association with Sylvanus Bramhall of Plymouth, Massachusetts (probably prior to 1822). IP: Logged |
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