SMP Logo
SM Publications
Silver Salon Forums - The premier site for discussing Silver.
SMP | Silver Salon Forums | SSF - Guidelines | SSF - FAQ | Silver Sales

The Silver Salon Forums
Since 1993
Over 11,793 threads & 64,769 posts !!
American Silver before sterling Forum

A GLOSSARY of MILLED BANDS
Past American Coin Silver Forum topics/threads worth a look
WEV's American Silversmith's Family Tree Project Smith's Index

How to Post Photos REGISTER (click here)

customtitle open  SMP Silver Salon Forums
tlineopen  American Silver before sterling
tline3open  Hyde & Goodrich Coin Silver

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
profile | register | preferences | faq | search

ForumFriend SSFFriend: Email This Page to Someone! next newest topic | next oldest topic
Author Topic:   Hyde & Goodrich Coin Silver
Genie

Posts: 1
Registered: Jan 2004

iconnumber posted 01-23-2004 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Genie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a pair of Tongs by Hyde & Goodrich that is a Fiddle Thread Design. The mark is a retangle with HYDE & GOODRICH inside. I have dome some research, but would like to know more.
Any help or direction will be greatly appreciated.

Gayle

IP: Logged

Patrick Vyvyan

Posts: 640
Registered: May 2003

iconnumber posted 01-24-2004 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Patrick Vyvyan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
William Voss, our moderator here, has investigated the family history of James Nevins Hyde
Born on 24 Jan 1788 at Norwich New London CT and died in 1838, New Orleans LA, Hyde worked from 1816 to 1837 with Charles W. Goodrich in New Orleans LA as HYDE & GOODRICH.
The company seems to have continued as a manufacturing and retail store presumably by the sons of the founders:
"Located at 15 Chartres, New Orleans, the firm of Hyde & Goodrich was in operation as far back as 1853. Principals were: William M. Goodrich, A.L. Hyde Thomas, Jr. and A.B. Griswold. Doubt may have existed in the minds of many, both north and south as to whether the two sections of the country would ultimately engage in armed conflict, but such doubt did not extend to Hyde & Goodrich. They made, bought and imported quantities of war supplies. Some of their English imported Tranter revolvers are noted to be engraved " Hyde & Goodrich, Agents for the United States South." In August, 1861, the firm changed hands and thenceforth operated as: Thomas Griswold & Co. and if unmarked would unquestionably be identified as having been made by that firm so far as methods of manufacturing, etc., were concerned. One existing specimen of the Hyde &Goodrich marketed swords and sabres of all kinds and types but the only one known is a foot officer's sword." from William Albaugh, A Photographic Supplement to Confederate Swords
Here is an 1850s illustration of the shop:

In the 1850s, Hyde & Goodrich retailed silver made by Adolphe Himmel.


IP: Logged

wev
Moderator

Posts: 4095
Registered: Apr 99

iconnumber posted 01-24-2004 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since I was last able to update of my site, I have found several interesting connections concerning various members of the Hyde and Goodrich families.

James Nevin Hyde's wife was Mary Ann Thomas, grand-daughter of the silversmith Daniel Dershon. Hyde's son, James Thomas, who became a seminary teacher in Illinois, married Augusta Saltonstall Hempstead, daughter of the silversmith Daniel Booth Hempstead, Sr. Hyde's second son, Simeon, married Charlotte Morgan, a cousin to the various Avery smiths. It is interesting to note that all of Hyde's children are reported as born in New York City. Their dates span the years 1822-1834, the same period Hyde was supposed to be working in New Orleans. He may indeed have been travelling back and forth on a regular basis, but that was a heck of a commute. Or was he a partner at a distance, supplying goods from New York City wholesalers to the firm? This would explain the overlapping dates of his partnership there with his cousin, Rufus Nevins.

On the other side of the partnership, I have added the Goodrich family line into the tree and found that Charles Whiting Goodrich was Hyde's 5th cousin. He had made the move to New Orleans from Brooklyn by 1813, when and where his first son, William McLean, was born. William, successor to the firm, married Cornelia P. Griswold in 1835; I have not traced the family yet, but there is undoubtly a connection here to his partners Thomas and A. B. Griswold. It is possible their line will lead back again to New York and the makers Chauncey and Gaylord Griswold.

Much work still to do, as always, but it's a start.

IP: Logged

All times are ET

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Administrative Options: Close Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic
Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:


Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a


1. Public Silver Forums (open Free membership) - anyone with a valid e-mail address may register. Once you have received your Silver Salon Forum password, and then if you abide by the Silver Salon Forum Guidelines, you may start a thread or post a reply in the New Members' Forum. New Members who show a continued willingness to participate, to completely read and abide by the Guidelines will be allowed to post to the Member Public Forums.
Click here to Register for a Free password

2. Private Silver Salon Forums (invitational or $ donation membership) - The Private Silver Salon Forums require registration and special authorization to view, search, start a thread or to post a reply. Special authorization can be obtained in one of several ways: by Invitation; Annual $ Donation; or via Special Limited Membership. For more details click here (under development).

3. Administrative/Special Private Forums (special membership required) - These forums are reserved for special subjects or administrative discussion. These forums are not open to the public and require special authorization to view or post.


| Home | Order | The Guide to Evaluating Gold & Silver Objects | The Book of Silver
| Update BOS Registration | Silver Library | For Sale | Our Wants List | Silver Dealers | Speakers Bureau |
| Silversmiths | How to set a table | Shows | SMP | Silver News |
copyright © 1993 - 2020 SM Publications
All Rights Reserved.
Legal & Privacy Notices