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nihontochicken Posts: 289 |
posted 04-23-2004 11:49 PM
  
I have a small ladle made by the prolific maker W.PITKIN. I have seen many of his items also struck with a retailer's stamp, usually incuse as his own instead of incise as was typical later on. This particular piece has the incuse retailer mark of H.C.ROBINSON. Now, my unruly inner demon of greed is screaming in my ear that this could be Hannah R. It is said that she retailed silver made by smiths other than herself. OTOH, I haven't seen any stamp for her other than H.ROBINSON, nor have I been able to identify a middle name or initial for her. So, can anyone identify the H.C.ROBINSON mark? Please tell me the truth. I swear, I will do nothing rash should I be forced to cancel my new Mercedes 600 SLR order. Your hands are clean. IP: Logged |
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ahwt Posts: 2334 |
posted 04-25-2004 10:04 PM
Beldon shows the mark of J. H. Norton, Norton & Owen and C. C. Norton combined with the mark of W. Pitkin. I have a spoon with the mark of H. D. Summer combined with W. Pitkin's mark. I have never been able to locate Summer. The marks for both Pitkin and the secondary mark are so similar in each case I have seen, that Pitkin may have stamped both marks on the items before they were shipped to the retailer. Beldon does indicate that Pitkin had an outlet in Vicksburg, MS. Since it was Pitkin's outlet in Mississippi, I would assume that another retailer's mark would not appear. Other than Beldon, I have no other source that would indicate that Pitkin did any business in Mississippi. IP: Logged |
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doc Posts: 728 |
posted 04-26-2004 01:17 PM
This is very interesting, because I have been meaning to post a question about Pitkin this week. I have a spoon with both a Pitkin stamp and a stamp for Root in Pittsfield, Mass. IP: Logged |
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nihontochicken Posts: 289 |
posted 04-26-2004 03:29 PM
(Oops, first reply went poof, try again!) The combination Pitkin/Norton marks are indicated in Ensko as a partnership. OTOH, I've seen a number of other names stamped along with Pitkin, many of which are not identified as makers, and are therefore presumably retailers. Here is the item number of a closed eBay auction with co-maker marks of J.O.&W.PITKIN and I.R.MILLER (not indicated as a partnership in ENSKO): quote: I can't currently find another example of a non-maker and W.PITKIN, but, again, have seen a number. So I don't know whether H.C.ROBINSON was a maker or retailer, and whether it was Hannah. Thanks for the info so far! IP: Logged |
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wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 04-27-2004 09:33 PM
This thread has prompted me to re-open my investigations of the Pitkin et al family lines in Hartford and East Hartford. It is a tangled web, which may, if I can unravel it, go a ways to illuminating (and explaining) the various partnerships and business dealings involving the family's half dozen makers. To give a small indication of the connections so far, here is a list of 496 silversmiths related to Walter, son of Walter M. and nephew of John Owen, the partners in J. O. & W. M. PITKIN. [This message has been edited by wev (edited 04-27-2004).] IP: Logged |
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