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bobilee

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iconnumber posted 01-14-2005 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bobilee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello,
I am new here and a new-ish silver collector. I have started a very modest collection of silver made in my home state of West Virginia, but, understandably, it is quite scarce. Most of the makers I've found are in the eastern part of the state, Clarksburg,
Martinsburg, Sheperdstown, etc. Are any of you familiar with West Virginia coin? Have you seen anything other than spoons? I have a large spoon made by "Northup", with the additional stamp of an eagle, but I can't definitely place him as a WV maker, though I was assured that he was when I bought it. If anyone knows I would appreciate it. Thanks.

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argentum1

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iconnumber posted 01-14-2005 08:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for argentum1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
West Virginia (western counties of Virginia)decided to stay aligned with the northern states at the start of the Civil War. On May 31, 1861 the Wheeling Convention as formed to await a statewide vote. The vote approved the succession of the western counties. In 1863 Lincoln sined a proclamation making West Virginia a state. So, to answer your question. Most 'Coin' silver from that area is Virginia silver. As 'coin' silver changed over to the Sterling standard in or about 1865/6; there probably isn't a great amount.
The moderators are immensely more knowlegable on this subject, so I too wait to hear from them.

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bascall

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iconnumber posted 12-20-2008 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bascall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bobilee:
I have a large spoon made by "Northup", with the additional stamp of an eagle, but I can't definitely place him as a WV maker, though I was assured that he was when I bought it. If anyone knows I would appreciate it. Thanks.

One jeweler that has potential although he does not appear to have any connection with West Virginia was Ebenezer Northup.

Ebenezer is listed in a partnership with German P Thurber in the 1857 New York City Directory.

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FWG

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iconnumber posted 12-20-2008 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FWG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my experience people consider as West Virginia any earlier silver made within what became that state, and "West Virginia" silver carries more of a premium than "Virginia" silver so the market supports that. I've seen the occasional piece of WVa silver, most often in Virginia and Kentucky, but it as, as you say understandably, fairly scarce - I wouldn't go so far as to say quite scarce.

I can remember seeing a very few small pieces of holloware like cups, but otherwise just spoons. I don't even remember seeing condiment or sauce ladles, although I have seen a few salt spoons.

I'm afraid I can't help with Northup though. I have seen the mark, can't remember where at the moment, and a quick scan of major references didn't turn him up. I'm buried in grading now and can't put much time into it though....

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Referring again to Northup, there is mention of Warren W Flint apprenticing with manufacturing jewelers Northrup & Thurber for four years in Central Falls, Rhode Island in the early 1850's and continuing with them as a journeyman until 1856.

My guess is that Northup & Thurber and Northrup and Thurber are the same people.

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iconnumber posted 07-06-2009 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bascall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Warren W Flint is listed in the 1850 U S Federal Census for Smithfield, Rhode Island. George his father was a clockmaker.

George Flint is listed again in the 1860 U S Federal Census for Smithfield, Rhode Island as a clockmaker, and William W is listed as a jeweler.

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