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Brent Posts: 1507 |
posted 03-16-2005 06:05 PM
  
 Here is a pair of intriguing objects, purpose unknown. They are basically rings about 3 inches in diameter. They are made in two pieces, with a stamped oak and laurel wreath front half attached to a plain back. Right at the "top" of each ring is a hole, possibly just to allow air to escape during the attachment process or more likely a place to attach a hanger of some kind. The backs have a kind of crude wriggle work decoration and are stamped "COIN". The marks look like those I have seen on coin silver jewelry. So what can they be? Frames? Christmas ornaments? Hat decorations? I am stumped, and am open to any and all suggestions. They are unusual, regardless! Brent IP: Logged |
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sazikov2000 Posts: 254 |
posted 03-16-2005 06:49 PM
To me it looks like some "decoration" you put over candles to catch waxdrops (in Europe they were made of glas, silver, porcellan, little flowerwreaths etc). I hope there are better explanations... Sazikov2000 IP: Logged |
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adelapt Posts: 418 |
posted 03-17-2005 05:06 AM
By carefully checking the inside rim, does it seem as though they could have been mounts for medallions/prize medals or somesuch? IP: Logged |
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Brent Posts: 1507 |
posted 03-17-2005 10:26 AM
That's a good idea; I hadn't thought of it before. I don't think the centers could support inset medals, but the rings may have been awards themselves, maybe with a ribbon tied to the top. Certainly the laurel wreath is a symbol of victory. Thanks for the contribution. Brent IP: Logged |
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Heather Posts: 46 |
posted 03-17-2005 11:13 AM
Brent wrote, "Certainly the laurel wreath is a symbol of victory." In addition, the acorn is a symbol of strength and faith. IP: Logged |
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labarbedor Posts: 353 |
posted 03-17-2005 01:14 PM
I am not certain what they are for, but I can attribute them to Seymour. Or at least I can with Alvina's help as she posted on my question:"I also have an Odd Fellows president's jewel. Mine is marked J. Seymour coin. According to Katharine Morrison McClinton in Collecting American 19th Century Silver, "Joseph Seymour (1835-1863) who worked in Syracuse, Utica and New York City advertised the making of secret society emblems." Other jewels I have are marked JS coin or just coin. If you have the McClinton book, or can get it, you might enjoy reading her chapter on Silver Masonic Jewels and Medals. Obviously Seymour made jewels for the Odd Fellows as well as Masonic organizations." I have had quiet a few Masonic or Odd Fellows items all probably by J.S. but only rarely signed, but almost always marked with one of two "coin" marks. He was one of the few silversmith's who used wriggle work decoration (besides of course those in the Indian Trade). My guess your items are part of either Masonic or Odd Fellows regalia or symbols. IP: Logged |
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Brent Posts: 1507 |
posted 03-17-2005 09:55 PM
Thank you for pointing out what had escaped me! If I'd thought about it, I would have noted the similarity to the Masonic jewels I have seen in the past. Certainly the construction is the same. They are obviously some type of ceremonial jewel, even if the exact society is unknown. Thanks! Brent IP: Logged |
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wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 03-17-2005 10:15 PM
Some sort of fraternal ring toss? I can't speak for the Odd Fellows (can anyone?), but I checked with a friend who is a Masonic historian and he knows no ceremonial use that such pieces would be associated with. IP: Logged |
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