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ahwt

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iconnumber posted 05-23-2005 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

The above picture shows what may be a journeyman's mark on a beaded pattern ladle. S.S. Cutler's mark is also on the ladle, but I think the little circle to the left is a journeyman's mark. I put an image of the beaded pattern on as I have never identified the actual maker of the ladle. The beaded pattern was very popular and my only source for patterns is Turner and he does not show this one. If anyone knows the manufacturer of this pattern we will know who Cutler was buying from. Cormany in his book on Alabama silver places Cutler in Florence, Alabama after his stay in Lexington, KY

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iconnumber posted 05-25-2005 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The pattern is a bead pattern by our friends at Wood and Hughes. It appears that Kentucky also used Wood and Hughes as their source for fine silver.

A popular internet auction house has a saved search feature that allows one to search, on a continuing basis, key words. Here it took only two days of searching "bead" to receive an email that identified the pattern.

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iconnumber posted 07-12-2019 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fitzhugh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The 1860 Census for Florence, Alabama enumerated silversmith Silas S. Cutler, born NY 1830, and wife Ophelia Stewart, born in Louisville, KY 1835. She was a d/o James & Pauline Stewart. I'm not certain this is the same silversmith working in Lexington, Kentucky, however.

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Silas Strickland was born in Albany on 29 Sept 1829. His father, John Nathan, was a skilled musical instrument maker (both in silver and wood) and later a watchmaker. Silas is listed as a silversmith in the 1850 Albany census. He died in Florence on 27 June 1860.

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iconnumber posted 07-12-2019 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I should add that I'd be very happy to have a good shot of his mark for my little project.

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iconnumber posted 07-12-2019 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From the Lexington Observer & Reporter, 14 February 1855.

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iconnumber posted 07-12-2019 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have not seen that ladle for some time, but I think I know where I put it. When I find it I can get a better picture of the mark.

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iconnumber posted 07-13-2019 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

The ladle was where I thought it might be. This is a little better image, but photography is really not my thing.
It appears Silas may have left Lexington sometime around 1855 when he sold his goods to a Mr. Goodloe. If he was born in 1829 he was only 26 at this time and only 31 when he died. It may be he moved to Florence, Alabama, but I have not seen any work by him in that city.

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