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argentum1 Posts: 602 |
posted 10-02-2006 01:33 PM
  
I have been wanting a good example of how an early piece is saved by updating it. A good 7 1/2 inch wavy end spoon given new life by decorating the surface of a plain spoon. I am not certain of the silversmith. Is it Thomas Savage? The photos I have seen as the mark of Thomas Savage is IS within a heart. What should be a T appears to be an I. Photos can be deceiving so I wonder who has seen this mark or the mark of Savage and am I correct in my assumption. I just bought it off that west coast site and probably paid too much but then I do not smoke or drink so I got to spend it on something and I really need to learn sentence structure. IP: Logged |
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ahwt Posts: 2334 |
posted 10-02-2006 05:47 PM
Kane's book on Colonial Massachusetts Silversmiths and Jewellers does show a mark for Thomas Savage, SR. that is very similar to your mark. Her photos are not very good, but her mark (a) is in a heart, the T looks like an I and the S looks slanted. Her mark does show a star below the I and S that I do not see in your photo. She shows another mark for Savage that appears to be in an oval. IP: Logged |
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vathek Posts: 966 |
posted 10-03-2006 01:12 PM
Interesting the way the engraver worked around the punches. IP: Logged |
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swarter Moderator Posts: 2920 |
posted 10-03-2006 01:48 PM
 I have played with the image a bit, but, even though there are some resemblances to Thomas Savage's mark, I lean to the interpretation of these marks as IS and not TS. Thomas Savage's mark is TS - even though the top bar of the T lacks serifs, it is clearly longer than the bottom bar. Thomas Savage, Jr.'s mark lacks the star, but clearly has a T with serifs and no bottom bar. IP: Logged |
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FWG Posts: 845 |
posted 10-03-2006 02:45 PM
I haven't had a chance to try identifying the mark, but my first reaction was that it might English rather than American, with the marks repeated as a tax dodge ploy. That may be influenced by just having seen so many English tablespoons reworked later into berry spoons to increase their value - but on the other hand, the decoration on this example looks very like some of the English altered ones I've seen. Great piece, in any case! IP: Logged |
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ahwt Posts: 2334 |
posted 10-03-2006 06:15 PM
Kane lists the junior Savage as moving to Bermuda in 1706 with his father and staying there when his father returned to Boston in 1714. He died in Bermuda in 1767. This has nothing to do with your lovely spoon, but I thought the contrast between living in Boston and Bermuda was interesting. IP: Logged |
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