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swarter
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iconnumber posted 12-13-2006 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swarter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Two unusual pieces by a W. P. Rogers, whom I have been unable to trace, have uniquely notched handles. They have no provenance, and resemble only a small unsigned teaspoon found in Western Pennsylvania some years ago. The ladle additionally has two pseudohallmarks, also unique.

The ladle is 6 3/4" long with a smallish round bowl 1 3/8" across and 7/16" deep, slightly smaller than similar ladles discussed in another thread

The spoon is 9 1/4" long. The maker's initials and the handle shape are the same as the name and handle on the ladle, and so undoubtedly share a common origin.

Maker's marks on both are poorly struck. Neither object is in particularly good shape, the ladle having been heavily buffed by someone and the spoon being well worn and damaged, but both are, in my experience, unique. I suspect they are Midwestern or mid southern in origin, but the name does not appear in any of my references - has anyone else seen it? The notched handle may be regionally characteristic, as are the shield-shaped handles on Louisville spoons, or it may be idiosyncratic, characteristic only of this maker.

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Can't help with the maker, or even very much with the form, but I have occasionally seen that handle form -- here in central NY, I think, rather than Virginia or Kentucky or Chicago (I do see a fair amount of western Pennsylvania silver around here, so that's certainly possible). I don't think I ever acquired one, but will keep it in mind next time I'm going through bags. The diamond-heart mark is also familiar, but again I'm afraid I'm drawing a blank on just where I've seen it before.

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I have a couple of spoons with similarly notched handles, which I posted about in this thread last year:
What's with the notches?

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iconnumber posted 01-13-2007 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And this thread may also be relevant:
WM Rodgers

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I have a couple of spoons with similarly notched handles, which I posted about in this thread last year. What's with the notches?

So you did - and better made, too. I suspect some Scottish influence in this design, drawn from the characteristic earlier Scottish fiddles, which have somewhat deeper notches. Perhaps some Scottish immigrants or descendants of immigrants attempted to describe to the silversmith what they wanted when they placed their orders, and this is what they got??? And the Scottish fiddles may in turn have been drawn from Scandinavian forms.

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And this thread may also be relevant:
WM Rodgers

The currrent thread was generated in response to points in another thread on ladles. If my memory were better, I could have saved myself a lot of trouble by using the photo from the earlier thread, but it was buried in another longer thread which was hard to find; besides, the later photos show more details. The link I had put in your thread when it was fresh in my mind must have helped you find it. Having a thread all of its own might help draw more attention and find someone who knows the maker.

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Here is a nice New York piece that might be considered the sugar tong version of the notched handle

I have also seen another by Stollenwerck of identical form, but nearly an inch shorter and an unmarked pair with acorn shaped bowls.

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