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Fitzhugh

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iconnumber posted 08-01-2007 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fitzhugh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has anyone documented the marks of Henry White of Fredericksburg, Va? Apparently he used several throughout his career, but sources on id'd marks are scattered at best. Henry Westermeyer also worked in this period, but his work, from what I gather, was more sophisticated and flamboyant in use of bright-cut decoration. The examples by White that I reference are rather plain. Any thoughts on differentiating the marks and works of these two Southern smiths?

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ahwt

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iconnumber posted 08-02-2007 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Henry Westermeyer is listed in Burton’s and Ripley’s book on South Carolina Silversmiths as working in Charleston in 1790. A photograph of the mark attributed to his is HW in a rectangle. The mark shown does not have a period after the H. Also illustrated are a creamer and a salt spoon, both with this mark.
The only book I have with the marks attributed to Henry White is Cutten’s book. The mark for Mr. White is shown as H.W within a rectangle. (A period is shown after the H) Also shown is H • White within a rectangle. Both of these marks are hand drawn.
A little over a year ago I heard Catherine B. Hollan, author of the book on Alexandria Silver, give a talk on Virginia silver and she indicated that she was about to publish a new book on Virginia silver. It was to be published by MESDA. Perhaps someone knows her or someone within MESDA and can see when this new book will be available.

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FWG

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It's still listed as "soon to be published.," cited thus in her article in the January Antiques. She's been working on this for some years, and I had thought it would be out by now, but from what I hear from my friend who has been working with her it really should be soon now. A lot of us are anxiously awaiting this, as it promises to be thorough and excellent.

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Fitzhugh

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iconnumber posted 08-02-2007 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fitzhugh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, just conferred with MESDA & CW, and the book is still in the works. I wish Cathy would solicit the "Forums" and other scholars for unpublished marks. I believe she'd be amazed at the material out there to be utilized.

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FWG

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iconnumber posted 08-03-2007 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FWG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At this stage in the process I'm afraid to even suggest it - I think it's one of the reasons for the delays - but if you have examples you think she'd be interested in you should get in touch. I know she has consulted many collectors and researchers, but in a project of this sort one always misses someone, somehow. I offered my Michael Shaver example, but she already had better (NB: remember my warning some time ago about faked Shaver pieces on the market!). I know a few people who contributed several examples, though.

As I said, the project has been delayed because new examples, marks, evidence kept popping up. Speaking as a scholar, there always is going to be something more that can be done, some error to be corrected - no book is perfect. The crucial ability is being able to say, OK, this is enough, and get the book out so others can work with it - and hopefully improve upon it. You can always put out supplements later. I've known even academic scholars to get caught up in the "it has to be perfect" trap and never get their work out; I hope this doesn't happen here.

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