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wev
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iconnumber posted 09-16-2007 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A far flung corespondent in the Netherlands sent me some pictures of a sterling tray he found there.

It is about 14" in diameter, has three cast and applied feet, and is quite heavy. The maker's mark, unusually on the front rather than the bottom, is quite worn, but reads (I am told) W.B.N.Co.

This would appear to be the mark of William Bennett North & Co, jewelers and watchmakers of New York City. As can be seen, it is also marked �925 and STG, which, if the attribution is correct, would be a very early use of the terms, as the firm was only in existence from 1823 to 1826.

Has anyone seen this form of quality marks on other pieces? Is this home grown? An unmarked English import? Something else entirely?

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iconnumber posted 09-16-2007 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder it it isn't Australian? I've seen the STG abbreviation on 20th C Australian silver. Could be from some other English speaking nation as well. It might also be Scandinavian, though they usually put an S after the standard mark. I certainly don't think it is American, not with the mark placement on the front like that.

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iconnumber posted 09-16-2007 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for argentum1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It was not uncommon for American silversmiths to import articles already stamped. The silversmiths of the country of origin would have marked the item in the same locations as they marked their own pieces. This practice started very early and probably continued into the 19th century. The use of the Sterling mark was used by some silversmiths in Baltimore. Anymore than this and I defer to those with more experience/knowledge. I have not seen the mark in question on any silver I have handled. It is an attractive piece. Good luck with your search. Because of what it is I would think it is early 20th century but then I do not swear to anything anymore.

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iconnumber posted 09-16-2007 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FWG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm with Brent and argentum1, I think it looks more like 20C (or late 19C). And the use of the superscripted |o| in Co. makes me think more likely English/colonial than US; I'd say Australia is a good guess, although I lack references for there. I note also that the mark has a more recent appearance than the one you show for the 19C WBN & Co., even through the worn state. Nice puzzle, though. I'll look forward to someone having the definitive word!

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 09-16-2007 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was able to skim quickly through one of our Australian silver references.....(It just happened to be out.) I didn’t see anything for WBN & Co., but plenty of the ”STG” mark were shown.

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vathek

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iconnumber posted 09-17-2007 08:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vathek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perhaps WBN was the retailer?

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Maybe the letters are W.D.& Co?
This mark was used by the retailer Drummonds of Melbourne Australia starting in 1910.

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That's got to be it! Thanks for posting the mark.

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iconnumber posted 09-22-2007 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for adelapt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And the salver looks to be of the type made by either the Stokes company in Melbourne or the firm of W J Sanders in Sydney. It would have been produced for Drummonds, and probably 1950s-1970s.

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