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argentum1

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iconnumber posted 09-17-2007 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for argentum1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ebay auction #160155136580 has ended. It was for a feather edge spoon with the mark PR in a box. It was advertised as Paul Revere and the site had 2051 visits, The spoon sold for $3,300.00. When I first saw the spoon I thought, 'I could sell the automobile and have a Revere spoon'. After looking at the mark a number of times I decided it was not a Revere spoon. The PR is very close to a known PR mark but does not make the grade; at least that is what I think.

So now I pose the question, 'Am I right or am I going to be eternally known as "The Dummy"'? In all actuality I do not understand why Revere silver is so expensive. There were three riders that fateful night but only one finished the ride and it was not Revere. The only reason that I can think of is the poem by Longfellow. Revere and William Dawes were both silversmiths so why is Dawes silver not as expensive as the Revere silver. In addition most Revere silver was made by silversmiths working for him and was never touched by Revere. There I go grumbling again.

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iconnumber posted 09-17-2007 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swarter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All such unsubstantiated claims are caveat emptor. When I first saw that auction my thought was the same as yours. I could not match it with any publihed photogtraph I consulted. Before I would accept any seller's word on such an object I would demand to see evidence of authentication of the mark - not all marks may have been published, and I could have missed one that was, but there are a lot of unidentified marks out there that look like what they are not, and there are false marks of famous makers in circulation as well. In Paul Revere's case, his day books exist, and it is possible that any object he actually made and/or sold could be traced and its provenance verified. Is it genuine? I don't know -- ebay no longer shows full bidder IDs, but I can tell you that mine is not in the list.

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jersey

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iconnumber posted 09-17-2007 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jersey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Swarter.
In this case the Id of all the bidders has been hidden intentionally, perhaps by the seller. This is not the case with their other auctions. My thoughts are if it were mine I would find a more specialized auction house to sell the spoon. That is not to say it could not also be available on ebay. I would also have gotten as much history on the piece as possible to generate the most money, if in fact I believed the piece to be even remotely authentic.
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iconnumber posted 09-20-2007 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Paul Revere was, according to Malcolm Gladwell a connector; i.e. one that knew everyone and because he was a "maven" had the knowledge to pass on information to those that would act on it.

Mr. Gladwell's book "The Tipping Point and How Little Things Can Make a Big Difference adds some interesting comments and the book itself is well worth reading. This is the best explanation of why Paul Revere is remembered and Dawes is not.

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