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ellabee

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iconnumber posted 07-27-2008 04:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ellabee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have yet to see a piece marked Bailey & Kitchen that does not also have the eagle-thistle-harp maker's mark of Taylor & Lawrie. But I'm very new to the silver world.

What evidence is there that B&K were actually makers rather than retailers of T&L-ware?

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Ulysses Dietz
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iconnumber posted 07-27-2008 07:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ulysses Dietz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think B&K actually manufactured anything. There's a long history of Bailey marked silver (through different variations of the firm) and all the things I can think of were made by other silversmiths.

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iconnumber posted 07-27-2008 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bascall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My uneducated guess is that Bailey & Kitchen did manufacturer their own silver items, but they soon became retail jewelers
which is what they were best at doing.

Here are some of the vital statistics and general information about Joseph Trowbridge Bailey from the words of his son Joseph Trowbridge Bailey the 2nd who had the advantage of being raised with his grandmother Lucy Benedict Bailey who lived until 1872. His son speaks endearingly and "glowingly" of his father as a man, who could expect less, but had almost nothing to say about his father's actual career nor does he tout his achievements?

Joseph Trowbridge Bailey the 1st was born in Thompson, New York, and his early youth was spent in Poughkeepsie, (as in indicator of the validity of this information a Major Bailey is in the U S Federal Census in Poughkeepsie in 1820 and New York City in 1830). At age 21 Joseph the 1st established himself in Philadelphia At age forty-eight he died on 13 March 1854 in Matanzas, Cuba.

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bascall

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There are conflicting stories about Andrew B Kitchen's life span. Some say he died in 1840, and the firm continued with his name until 1848, and others say he retired in 1848. However, the U S Federal Census Mortalities Schedule Index shows a Philadelphia County 38 year old jeweler named Andrew Kitchen having died of consumption in May of 1850. This is likely to be the person in question, but there's is no guarantee here.

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ellabee

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iconnumber posted 07-28-2008 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ellabee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the replies.

If B&K had produced any of the work they sold, then wouldn't one or the other of the principals have apprenticed with someone? There seem to be no records so far of either having done so.

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In one of the writes ups about the pair, they are said to have begun business with a handful of jeweler's tools and a modest sum of money which still proves nothing but leans towards them having done at least some work themselves.

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The pictures below are of a Bailey and Company water pitcher made by Taylor and Lawrie. The scene on the pitcher includes some rather large birds flying over the homes and a picket fence. Every time I pull this pitcher out I get a chuckle at these oversized animals and wonder what was in the mind of the designer.

This particular pitcher must have enjoyed some commercial success as I have seen several of identical design. I suspect that it became a stock item for Bailey and Co.

I included several pictures as the finish work on this pitcher as it really makes the design on the pitcher glisten in the light.

This pitcher was probably made between 1848 and 1852. The Bailey Co. used the Bailey and Kitchen mark until 1848 and after 1852 Taylor and Lawrie apparently stopped supplying the Bailey Company with silver.






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