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argentum1

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iconnumber posted 11-11-2008 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for argentum1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I did a search but found no buttons.



The buttons are 1 1/8th inch high by 7/8th inches wide. I can not find the initial mark. Does anyone know who this might be? If better images are needed please let me know. Thanks for any assistance.

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jersey

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iconnumber posted 11-11-2008 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jersey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi argentum1!

I cannot read the mark, can you tell me what the letters are, or who you think/know who the maker is?

Thanks.

Jersey

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ellabee

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The letters look like 'JF' to me. Is that correct, argentum?

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iconnumber posted 11-11-2008 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swarter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The maker's initials are JF - any number of possibilities. Is there any provenance on these?

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argentum1

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iconnumber posted 11-11-2008 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for argentum1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Better resolution and larger.

No provenance that I know of. They were purchased on that west coast site about a year ago.

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jersey

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iconnumber posted 11-11-2008 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jersey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello again!

My best shot is..........there was a James Fenton in Birmingham England who was a thimble maker, perhaps there is a connection?

Jersey

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Clive E Taylor

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iconnumber posted 11-12-2008 06:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Clive E Taylor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I cannot comment on this button, but from experience I know English silver bucklemakers used to send silver items overseas without any assay marks, only their own stamp. Probably to avoid paying for the assay, or maybe slightly sub-standard silver which they thought the poor colonials would not detect. After 1784, this tendency seemed to get worse - the avoidance of the need to reclaim duty and the reluctance I suspect of Americans to get something with King George's head on it !

So never discount the chance of an item being English if it has no Lion Passant .

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adelapt

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The small weight (looks to be under 10dwt) would have exempted it from hallmarking for at least most of the 18thC if English.

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