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bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 12-27-2008 05:05 AM
  
OBITURARY - New York Times 1 Dec 1891 Clinton Gilbert, one of the last of the connecting links between early New-York and the present day, died last Sunday at his residence, 20 West Tenth Street, in his eighty-fifth year. Mr. Gilbert was the son of William W. Gilbert, the first silversmith in the city of New-York,whose place of business was on what is now known as Maiden Lane, and he was born on Macdougal Street in March, 1806, on his father's farm, which then extended almost to Fifth Avenue and west to the North River. In 1835 Mr. Gilbert married the sister of James Stokes of the firm of Phelps, Stokes & Co., and entered into a copartnership with Mr.Stokes, under the firm name of Stokes & Gilbert, to carry on the metal business. Three years later he retired from the firm and became Treasurer of the Greenwich Savings Bank He was Trustee for more than thirty years of the Woman's Hospital, the Eye and Ear Infirmary, the Northern Dispensary, the United States Trust Company, of which he was one of the founders; The United States Life Insurance Company, the Greenwich Fire Insurance Company, the Greenwich Bank, the New York Historical Society, the New-York Geographical Society, and for many years he was one of the officers of the Union League Club. Mr. Gilbert was also Treasurer of the Society for the Protection of Game, to which office Robert Roosevelt succeeded. Mr. Gilbert was a widower, and died childless. His immediate heirs are Commodore John S. Dickerson of New-York Yacht Club, Mrs. S. B. Van Dusen, and Mrs. Entz. The various institutions with which Mr. Gilbert was connected have all called special meetings to take action on his death. The funeral services will be held at the First Presbyterian Church, corner of Fifth Avenue and Twelfth Street, at 10:30 o'clock to-morrow morning. IP: Logged |
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wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 12-27-2008 10:46 AM
He was one of nineteen children born to William W. Gilbert and his two wives, Catherine Cosine and Elizabeth Hawley. He was born on 08 Aug 1807, however, and his father was not the first silversmith in New York City. [This message has been edited by wev (edited 12-27-2008).] IP: Logged |
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bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 12-27-2008 10:56 AM
Was not the point the location rather than the profession? IP: Logged |
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wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 12-27-2008 11:34 AM
I wasn't aware of any dispute; his career there is well documented. IP: Logged |
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bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 12-27-2008 11:58 AM
quote: the first silversmith in the city of New-York,whose place of business was on what is now known as Maiden Lane IP: Logged |
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wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 12-27-2008 12:31 PM
Yes, but only if you accept this fact as true among the the others that are not. The only documented shop anyone records was on Broadway; it was looted of £200 of silver by the British on 27 August 1770. He undoubtedly had others, but a mention made by a disinterested writer a 140 years after the fact should be looked at with a good measure of suspicion. IP: Logged |
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swarter Moderator Posts: 2920 |
posted 12-27-2008 01:43 PM
quote: Only if you omit the comma after New York: quote: IP: Logged |
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bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 12-27-2008 02:43 PM
There's at least a couple commas to be observed in this instance. The content is obvious. These people were just not that ignorant. It's just the man's obituary; can we leave it at that? IP: Logged |
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Cheryl and Richard Posts: 154 |
posted 01-10-2009 12:33 PM
We took a walk around The Village and want to share views of the church and Mr. Gilbert's home. The house is the easternmost of a group called "The English Terrace Row", 1855-1856, which was the first group of row houses in the City to abandon the high, Dutch stoop. The church is a Landmark. First Presbyterian Church, 1845, Joseph C. Wells. The tower is an adaptation of Magdalen Church tower at Oxford. The cast iron fence was brought from the church's original location on Wall Street. IP: Logged |
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Polly Posts: 1970 |
posted 01-11-2009 01:36 AM
The house next door to Mr. Gilbert's, where a dear friend of mine now lives, was once the home of the poet Emma Lazarus ("Give me your tired, your poor..."). In the picture you can see a bit of the blue plaque commemorating her. (Edited to clarify: My friend lives in Emma Lazarus's house, not Clinton Gilbert's.) [This message has been edited by Polly (edited 01-11-2009).] IP: Logged |
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Cheryl and Richard Posts: 154 |
posted 01-11-2009 03:47 PM
A few doors farther east is a house with a plaque reporting that Mark Twain lived there for a time. A very literary neighborhood. IP: Logged |
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