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bascall

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iconnumber posted 04-07-2009 04:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bascall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any information on this pattern would be appreciated.

The retailer was John Edwin Parker who was born in Birmingham, England on 18 February 1837 and died 30 July 1902 in Morristown, New Jersey. John E Parker immigrated to the U S in 1855. He was a Morristown, New Jersey jeweler and watchmaker. His son John Van Cleve Parker joined him in the business in 1897.

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ahwt

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iconnumber posted 04-07-2009 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Turner does not show your pattern, but does show two similar patterns introduced in the mid-1870s; Viola and Venetian.
Very pretty pattern.

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jersey

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iconnumber posted 04-07-2009 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jersey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Bascall!

In the trade I have found they refer to it as Pattern # 1, 1855.

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bascall

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iconnumber posted 04-08-2009 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bascall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ahwt and Jersey, thank you for your input.
Hopefully, in time a little more information will come to light about this pattern.

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ellabee

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iconnumber posted 04-12-2009 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ellabee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The pattern looks later than 1855 to me. Is there any other evidence to place it so early? It has a very late 1860s-to-1870s look.

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 04-17-2009 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Wood & Hughes ladle (in their Gadroon pattern) that's marked like yours with a star. I wonder what the star means.

Yours and mine are both early patterns (if Jersey is right), but the marks use the sideways-epsilon ampersand, which I understand is a later mark.

[This message has been edited by Polly (edited 04-17-2009).]

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Paul Lemieux

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This W&H pattern looks like mid-1860s to early 1870s to me. 1855 seems too early.

Have heard that the star marks (and other such stampings) are marks of the craftsman or who worked on the piece. Not sure if this is true. It seems like such marks would be more appropriate on specially made pieces, not merely die-struck flatware, but wno knows?

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Trefid

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I've an engraved presentation date of Aug. 5, 1881 on a tablespoon in the #1 pattern. I think of it, though, as an 1860's pattern, similar in style to Seymour's UNION, which carries a Pat'd 1867 mark.
However, there is an engraved version of this pattern which could date to 1855. I've a master butter knife in it.

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bascall

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iconnumber posted 05-23-2009 03:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bascall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Trefid. Although many are satisfied to classify this as an 1855 Number One pattern for Wood & Hughes, the Wood & Hughes part of that is really all I'm 100% in agreement on. It would be fine if the "majority" turned out to be correct.

Just about all of the suggestions that have been made for the pattern's origination period are within reason to me. My own guess is 1880's.

Maybe as you have elluded to, engravings will ultimately be the best indicator even though that is not foolproof either.

Is there a particular period for this style of bowl that would do anything to help date the pattern?

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ellabee

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:: Is there a particular period for this style of bowl that would do anything to help date the pattern? ::

It's a jelly or preserves spoon, and I believe a lot of makers used that shape over a fairly long period. So unfortunately it's not something that will help narrow down the date.

I have a Krider & Biddle coin jelly spoon with a near-identical bowl; it had to have been made some time between 1858 and 1870.

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