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ahwt

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iconnumber posted 10-03-2009 11:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Above is a goblet with the mark of William Gale and Son and a date mark of 1852. It has a milled band around the top that is a little unusual - the rim is not a smooth line, but goes up and down with the design of the band. I do not think that our milled band thread has one just like this one.

The goblet has a short stem, but the bowl is the size normally used for water. I think I was attracted to it first as the inscription is to a child from his great grandmother. Most of the ones I have seen have been from parents or grandparents and it is nice to see great grandparents getting into the act.

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argentum1

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iconnumber posted 10-07-2009 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for argentum1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am not certain that this can be classified as a 'milled band'. That however is best left to others here as I am not certain of what to call it. I would think 'lip treatment'? Someone please give us a sort of definitive answer. Thanks all.

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agleopar

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iconnumber posted 10-07-2009 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for agleopar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is a cast border, probably cast in 3 or 4 sections and then soldered to the rim. The rim is then filed down to conform to the flow of the applied castings.
Interestingly the milled band on the foot of the goblet might be worth a close up?

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DB

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iconnumber posted 10-07-2009 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DB     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This specific milled band (on the foot) is already found on Roman silver.

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ahwt

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iconnumber posted 10-07-2009 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Thanks argentum1 and agleopar for the information about the rim. The base is shown above and I think is a modified egg and dart pattern.

I think this pattern is fairly common.

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argentum1

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iconnumber posted 10-07-2009 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for argentum1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does have any markings to indicate maker?

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ahwt

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iconnumber posted 10-07-2009 11:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The goblet has the William Gale and Son mark with their date mark of 1852. They were large manufacturers and may have made the milled band and the cast band.

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