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wev
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iconnumber posted 06-05-2010 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With summer weather setting in, I have been fiddling with my project. I thought it might be useful to break down the included silversmiths by state and city. It turned out to be more of a chore than I thought, but here is a rough draft:

Smiths by State

I would appreciate comments and/or suggestions. If it looks like it would be of interest, I could follow up with the same for jewelers, watchmakers, pewtersmiths, etc.

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iconnumber posted 06-05-2010 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dragonflywink     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cool! But believe your Arizona smith should be Arkansas.....

~Cheryl

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iconnumber posted 06-05-2010 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swarter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Elizabeth Preston (PA) is out of line (spacing is off). Other than that, it looks pretty much error free - no mean accomplishment, to be sure.

I would suggest that it would be easier to use if either the first and last columns were swapped, or the smiths be alphabetized within each state, depending on which is more useful. If the main thrust is to be geographical, the first option would seem more appropriate.

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iconnumber posted 06-05-2010 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Cheryl -- at least in Arkansas you don't need no stinking papers.

Swartwer -- I wanted to stay with the geographical, so how's this? new layout

Or would it be better to break each state (or several small states) out as a separate page, then a table of makers by city?

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iconnumber posted 06-05-2010 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chase33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very nice work! The only minor (very minor) point is under South Carolina it should be Beaufort instead of Beauford.

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wev
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iconnumber posted 06-05-2010 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Excellent catch and now corrected

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iconnumber posted 06-05-2010 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swarter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by wev:

Swartwer -- I wanted to stay with the geographical, so how's this? new layout

This works for me, but I don't think it necessary to repeat the same town name line after line - once should be sufficient. You could even use the cities/towns as headings, which would give you more column space. A separate page for each would be more trouble than it is worth - I think the long table is best - easier to navigate and more economical of band width. Good job.

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iconnumber posted 06-05-2010 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for doc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL, when I first saw wev's post, I thought he had developed a list of makers named Smith; I got excited because I have several spoons with Smith as a maker that I cannot identify!

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iconnumber posted 06-05-2010 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Separate pages, now that I look at it, would be a pain.

Here is the table with the dup's removed. The old was congested, but this may be a bit confusing: single cities

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iconnumber posted 06-06-2010 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I did up a new layout which I think reads easier:

States/Cities

Comments?

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iconnumber posted 06-06-2010 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swarter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't see much (if any) difference. They both look good. Much better than the first draft.

There are a few cities at the top of their state lists that are out of order, preceded by --; am I missing something?

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iconnumber posted 06-06-2010 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those are smiths who are known to have worked in a county, but not a specific city.

Did you refresh your browser? The layouts are pretty different.

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iconnumber posted 06-06-2010 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swarter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe it is a Mac thing, but they are line by line identical, side by side on two monitors and again with a different browsers (first Safari and then Opera), mix and match, separate loade for each window. If they are different, it is not enough for me to notice. Both have a date of 10 June, same as the original draft.

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iconnumber posted 06-06-2010 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swarter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unless there is something different under the squiggle, the two links look identical. confused

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iconnumber posted 06-06-2010 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well duh; I'm dimmer than usual this morning -- I overwrote the previous file with the new one, so the two links here both bring up the same page. Sorry.

Here's the first

And the new improved second

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iconnumber posted 06-06-2010 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swarter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The second is much better - you had me going for a while there.

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iconnumber posted 06-10-2010 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I finished adding in partnership dates, which bring us up to 4,305 entries. There are about 200 more makers that will need manual sorting and coding, but that will have wait for my eyes to refocus.

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iconnumber posted 06-11-2010 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have now done up the 1,030 jewelers:

Jewelers by State

Since I am using quite broad occupation designations, there will be a good deal of duplication with the Silversmith list.

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