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taloncrest Posts: 169 |
posted 12-30-2006 09:31 PM
  
[26-1292] In reply to the thread in the American silver before sterling forum, I don't know much about it myself, but I can add a pattern name: Laurel. The January-February 1991 issue of Silver had an article "More Syracuse Silver -- the patterns of Hotchkiss & Schreuder and their predecessors and successors" by D. Albert Soeffing (p.9-11), which was illustrated with eleven patterns with names which were found in a scrapbook in the Gorham archives. The author says "Laurel, since it can be found bearing the Bunnelle & Schreuder mark, can quickly be found to be an 1850's pattern; judging by the large amount of it still available, it was a popular product". He doesn't mention a beehive mark, though. He does state "a discussion of the Bunnelle & Schreuder mark may be found in an article entitled "Bunnelle & Schreuder: the attribution of a Syracuse pseudo-hallmark" (Silver, January-February 1990, p. 16-18). IP: Logged |
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rian Posts: 169 |
posted 12-30-2006 10:53 PM
Thank you, Taloncrest. I'm happy to be able to match a name to this pattern. It sounds as though I'm going to have to see if I can track down the issues of Silver Magazine you mentioned. IP: Logged |
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June Martin Forum Master Posts: 1326 |
posted 01-01-2007 02:41 PM
Hi, Rian. You should contact Silver Magazine. They do have certain back issues of the magazine available for sale. Click here for more information IP: Logged |
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rian Posts: 169 |
posted 01-01-2007 06:00 PM
I do plan to order the copies of Silver Magazine June, although my family believes it is a bad influence. They seem to be afraid that my barely managable addiction to flatware may progress to an unhealthy interest in holloware. I have already heartlessly displaced valuable collections of sports memorabilia to make room for asparagus tongs and teaspoons and butter knives. Any day now the baseball trophies may be cruelly banished and in their place (horror of horrors) a tea service! IP: Logged |
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taloncrest Posts: 169 |
posted 01-02-2007 08:46 PM
You could also try interlibrary loan through your local library for individual articles. The one I quoted from is a photocopy I obtained years ago when trying to determine the pattern of a Hotchkiss & Schreuder piece that I had (it turned out to be Unique). I obtained the citation from Rainwater and happily it was just the article I needed. Edit: There is sometimes a charge for this service, but it is a great way to get copies of articles if you have a good citation for it. [This message has been edited by taloncrest (edited 01-02-2007).] IP: Logged |
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rian Posts: 169 |
posted 01-03-2007 01:45 PM
That is a wonderful suggestion. Even if I do buy the back copies myself, as I did for the ice cream silver article, ordering it through my local library first might help encourage them to subscribe to Silver magazine. I wonder how many requests it would take to move a bureaucracy? I wish more people realized how interesting and (forgive me, argentum) how easy silver is to use. Taloncrest, when you have the time would you mind posting a picture of your H&S piece? IP: Logged |
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taloncrest Posts: 169 |
posted 01-04-2007 04:37 PM
I'm slow as usual, but here are my pieces in the Unique pattern. I've added a few more since I got my first piece. My first piece is the dessert spoon. It has the H&S mark, and the retailer is E. Harris. It is monogrammed in script Charlie, and is 7 1/16 inches long. The small knife and fork I purchased outside of Birmingham. The fork is 5 7/8 inches long and the knife is 7 1/16 inches long. They have the same script monogram, but it is worn and hard to read, and may be W A J. They have the H&S mark and the mark of the retailer D.A. Hixson. The butter knife I purchased in Atlanta, and it is unmarked. It is 7 inches long and monogrammed in script Angelia. IP: Logged |
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rian Posts: 169 |
posted 01-04-2007 08:38 PM
Beautiful pattern--do you know the patent date? It looks very 1870s to me. Reminds me of Wood and Hughes Humboldt but I think it's better looking than Humboldt. Thank you for posting the pictures. If I see Unique again I will know what it is. That may be what I like best about learning about and collecting flatware. Just the moment of recognition--this is a pattern that I know. IP: Logged |
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taloncrest Posts: 169 |
posted 01-04-2007 11:14 PM
I'm glad to be able to contibute anything I can to this forum. I've learned a great deal from it over the years. The article estimates late 1860's or early 1870's due to "use of arabesques and the shape of the shaft". And you are right. It does look a great deal like Humboldt. IP: Logged |
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